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[–] MrSoup@lemmy.zip 37 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Can't they theme gtk4/libadwaita without editing libadwaita? Like gradience do

I've made a bunch of libadwaita apps, because I like its UI/UX not because I want to break other Desktop Environment. That would mean even more fragmentation.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If they did you'd have one theme that works with Gnome and one that works with Mint. Both of which would be irrelevant to someone using GTK apps on, say, XFCE on Arch.

[–] MrSoup@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Aren't mint themes gtk themes?

[–] Ashtefere@aussie.zone 22 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Libadwaita is only compatible with gnome and only works with gnome. Other DE's can try to make it work in their DE, but the experience for them is hostile.

To put it mildly, gnome devs are being dicks about it as much as they can be, because they consider themselves the only "real" desktop environment to Linux.

If you want your apps to be cross platform, you can just use gtk3/gtk4 instead, or any other ui library. Even QT.

I use gnome ATM because I think paperwm is the best desktop experience on any OS, but the gnome DE devs are just assholes and they break my heart.

[–] MrSoup@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I use Gnome too and I don't like their attitude against other DEs. Their attitude is becoming a real threat to Linux interoperability.
At least we got flatpaks.

[–] Giooschi@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Libadwaita is only compatible with gnome and only works with gnome. Other DE's can try to make it work in their DE, but the experience for them is hostile.

Not sure what you mean with "compatible", as libadwaita apps are supposed to work on other DEs as well. It might not fit visually with them, but that's not being incompatible.

[–] Ashtefere@aussie.zone 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Gnome can't use the argument that "theming our apps is incompatible" and then at the same time not allow other DEs to manage window controls and the like to be compatible. Shit attitude and shit arguments.

[–] Giooschi@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

GNOME devs never said that theming is incompatible (just "not supported"), and you're still not explaining whay you mean with "incompatible" either. Managing window controls also doesn't seem a requirement to be "compatible", as the app still runs fine even with client side decorations (again, it just won't fit visually with the rest of the system).

And by the way, the problem is not theming per-se, but the fact that apps get themed by default, they inevitably break by default, and app developers are left to deal with that. Nobody ever tried to improve the situation so the solution they came up with is to have their apps always look the same.