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[–] Nogami@lemmy.world -5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

People who don’t like it can vote with their wallet and buy something else.

I’m 100% happy with not running unsigned code on the most important device in my life that handles all banking and authentication.

Or Apple can release an entirely different OS build that sideloaders can use that also prohibits them from using any Apple apps or devices, what with being insecure and all.

People who think they’re sticking it to Apple are the fools.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This goes beyond what “voting with your wallet” can accomplish. What Apple is doing is making everyone’s phones hostage of their central control and software. Android does this as well to a lesser and more manageable extent but it’s still wrong. Think about it, any of those devices running 100% offline / no access to their servers how long will they keep working , be able to open/install apps etc? This is a threat to democracies and the majority of people aren’t aware / don’t care about the long terms effects of their choices.

How different would be our world if IBM, Microsoft and Apple pulled this kind of frap on computers back then? Probably not as good as it is today, no Linux ever made (because the signed bootloader wouldn’t allow it) and with it half of the software innovation accomplished.

This is why governments should act and push those companies into behaving.

[–] FlorianSimon@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

People have been secure with unlocked computers for decades now... And wait until you learn that malware can be signed, too.

[–] Nogami@lemmy.world -5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Tell me how much signed Apple malware is on the App Store right now.

[–] FlorianSimon@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I can't quantify it, and never claimed I could, but it's documented in the press. Do your own research, I'm not here to hold your hand.

[–] Nogami@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

So you’re full of crap. Noted. Thanks.

[–] FlorianSimon@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Google "App Store Malware". That's not intense research. And stop being dishonest and moving the goalposts.

[–] Nogami@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Now you’re just being pathetic.

[–] FlorianSimon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

So you’re full of crap. Noted. Thanks.

[–] folkrav@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago

I just don’t understand how you get to the idea that the phone you carry around is inherently any different than your computer, and that giving the option is inherently gonna compromise your security if you decide not to turn it on.