this post was submitted on 30 Apr 2024
805 points (92.1% liked)

News

22651 readers
3206 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (6 children)

I guess vegan cheese has improved a whole lot since I last tried it.

Now if only they could make a vegan hot dog that didn't taste god-awful...

[–] Aolley@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

that beyond brauts are pretty good actually

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I haven't had those, but I'm waiting for a plant-based product that tastes like a good Nathan's or Hebrew National.

[–] CasualPenguin@reddthat.com 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Asking more for my own curiosity more than as a suggestion: Have you tried Field Roast frankfurters?

I liked hot dogs as a kid and I haven't enjoyed any of the many smart dog etc ones, but the frankfurters are a staple for me.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I have not. I will look for them at some point.

[–] BuddyTheBeefalo@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

We don't have that long.

[–] MilitantVegan@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

I've definitely had some good hot dogs and brats. I don't remember which stadium style hot dogs I've tried, but I usually go for some flavor of Field Roast.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LwpAS5_RVxM

[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 4 points 3 months ago

I had some vegan cheese I got from a food pantry, that shot was top tier. I think it was called vialife?

Best quesadillas ever

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Tried some vegan "feta" type cheese for my salad, based on cocos oil, and it was pretty bad. It had a terrible stink and taste like overripe cheese, which is kinda the opposite of what you'd expect from this type. It also became incredibly smeary immediately when I tried to crumble it, so it only mimics the original consistency when it is untouched.

The only vegan products that I've tried and liked so far were oat milk, which is pretty much tasting like regular milk at this point (at least my brand), some vegan Schnitzel which tastes not quite but close enough like those premade regular ones you'd get at a grocery store, and some "cut chicken" type stuff which honestly was pretty great in taste and consistency and definitely something I get again if I want to throw some mixed veggie bag into the pan. Everything else I've tried ranged from "meh" to "eugh". But I'm sure it's just a matter of more R&D.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Some of the Beyond and Impossible stuff I've had has been okay, but I'm not sure if they're vegan.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I love using ground beef substitutes in meatloaf and shepards pie. Using ground flaxseed as a binding agent and coursely ground oats as breadcrumbs has made for some excellent dinner dates!

[–] buffaloseven@kbin.social 2 points 3 months ago

Lentils make for a great meat replacement in a Shepard's Pie. You adjust seasonings a bit, but at this point I might actually prefer it to regular ol' Shepard's Pie.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Tried a vegan ground meat from my local Lidl and it was easily one of the worst things. Terrible taste and smell, nothing like meat at all and my kitchen stank for weeks. Really put me off of a lot of those meat substitutes, especially since it was so highly praised.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What brand? Impossible and Beyond brands are pretty good (though you have to compensate for a lack of intrinsic oils when cooking).

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Next Level Hack by Next Level Meat. No idea if that's available outside Germany.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Meh, blue cheese tastes more like mold than cheese, so I can see a vegan version being competitive when other vegan cheeses aren't.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I wouldn't go that far, but it does have a flavor that the fungus adds that other cheeses don't. However, to win this award, it would have to be pretty indistinguishable from not just blue cheese, but top-of-the-line blue cheese, which is damn impressive for something without any dairy in it.

I'm curious what they can achieve with cheddar based on that.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hot dogs and other sausages without meat will always be awful because the flavor and texture is what makes them work.

I am not a vegan or vegetarian. I absolutely love vegetarian and vegan dishes that are based on their ingredients doing their own thing.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not convinced of that. At the end of the day, it's a collection of mostly proteins arranged in certain ways plus water and salt. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that something like that can be replicated.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

There is cartilage, fats, cell structure, and a ton of other things that make up the majority of meat that are extremely difficult to replicate for texture both when it is first cooked/heated/whatever and how it holds up as leftovers. Like different cuts of meat are basically the same parts but wildly different in taste and texture just like plants are basically the same except for all their differences.

Honestly I don't get why so many people want a fake version of meat made out of plants when plants are pretty awesome on their own. grilled vegetables are fantastic! There are a ton of cultures with meals that are vegetarian or vegan and very complex in both flavor and texture because they played to the strengths of their available foods. Why bother with trying to make mediocre fake sausage when spring rolls exist?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If it convinces people who feel that it is necessary to have something that is a basic replacement for the meat that they eat to switch, which I believe it does sometimes, I think it makes sense.

Even convincing people to eat less meat and have a veggie burger once a week instead of a beef burger would be a good thing. It's easier to convince them to do that than to have Nepali food.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Now I want to try Nepali food.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

There's a couple Nepali places near me. It's basically the same as Indian.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com -2 points 3 months ago

I really like eating meat. It's as simple as that.