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Hello! I've been searching for a reddit alternative, and yes, I've picked Lemmy and Raddle, but here's the thing. My morbid curiosity is perked up, and a part of me wants to join the "free speech" alternatives, like Saidit, Poal, etc. What's wrong with me that I want to join toxic places? I mean, yes I'll find a whole new perspective (albeit wrong), on political topics, but a part of me wants to be the antagonist, and post lefty memes, and music with a left-leaning message (bands from r/rabm) I know that's like kicking the hornet's nest, so you don't need to start in with "that's a bad idea" I know it is. My main point/question is, is it wrong to join a site with potential hate speech? Does it make someone a bad person?

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[โ€“] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 78 points 6 months ago (3 children)

It potentially opens you up to radicalization in the wrong direction.

[โ€“] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Generally radicalization in any direction is bad.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Why? Shouldn't the measure of good and bad be with respect to how correct it is, not how closely the position aligns with the status quo?

[โ€“] Carighan@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (3 children)

The word implies an unhealthy and incorrect degree. Otherwise you're not radicalized, just representing an opinion.

[โ€“] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

the word radical means "from or going to a root or source."

it simply implies wanting to deal with the root cause of issues. the word you are looking for is probably "extremism"

[โ€“] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

radical means arising from or going for the root.

it implies fixing things at the perceived root cause, the word you are actually looking for here is probably "extremism"

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago

Not necessarily, it implies conviction and separation from the norm.

[โ€“] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

To be fair I think my definition of radicalize is wrong given the other comments. Ive always used it as a synonym for extremism.

[โ€“] Urist@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

Yes, hence they reveal that they think the staus quo is the correct way of doing things... Though to be fair, being a little reactionary is hard wired in human brains and is especially prone to surface for those politically illiterate (or idiots in Greek).

[โ€“] davel@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago

Enlightened centrist entered the chat.

[โ€“] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)
[โ€“] stoy@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There are a few instances like that, not just one

[โ€“] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I want so bad for them to add auto-hiding for comments from certain instances.

[โ€“] stoy@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 months ago

I have blocked the most annoying instances, I used to just keep blocking all communities from them that I saw in my feed, but that list quickly became too long to even open in my app...

[โ€“] AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, Lemmy.ml is pretty trash tbh

[โ€“] davel@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

You know where the exit is.

[โ€“] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

we need radical change tbh, things are not sustainable the way they are. just pays to be cautious about it though.

[โ€“] Nakoichi@hexbear.net -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You realize there are good and bad forms of radicalism right?

[โ€“] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

yes thats kinda what i meant, being careful to vet what you are trying to learn is key.