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[–] blady_blah@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago (18 children)

I'd even go simpler than that. "If calling people by their preferred pronouns is one of the hundred biggest challenges...." Inserting "correct" into the statement just begs to get into an argument with a conservative and feels like you're trying to force them to accept a different reality than they want to.

IMHO it's simply a personal preference thing. Let people live how they want to live. You don't have to convince everyone that Sally is really a woman trapped in the body of a man, you just have to say that it's her preference you call her as a "she". People should have the freedom to define themselves. That's it. End of story.

My conservative neighbor brought up trans stuff thinking he'd use all the conservative media talking points and my answer was simply "it doesn't really bother me. I'm a live and let live kind of guy. If they want me to use a different pronoun I'll do my best to switch to that pronoun." If you spin it as a freedom instead of a reality then it's easier to accept.

[–] spiderwort@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (6 children)

You are asking us to tolerate the intolerant.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

that's what tolerance is. not tolerating them is being intolerant, and self-defeating ultimately.

sorry, should we go an extirpate the Amish because they don't accept lgbt+ people in their community? or another community that disagrees with lgbt identities? are we going to bomb the middle east in the name of trans rights? those are utter ridiculous ideas, so is the idea of being 'stamping out intolerance'. all that tells me is you think others should conform to your beliefs or be removed.

no, we're not. because that's insane. we tolerate the intolerate all the time. just like you don't scream at your annoying co-worker who bores you to tears about sports or wahtever shit they try to chat you up about.

[–] spiderwort@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I do not dress to suit the amish. And I do not speak to suit these gender-obsessives. Towards that sort of dictation, no, I do not practice tolerance.

But I do tolerate those who think (dress, live etc ) differently from me to peacefully do their thing.

(To clear up your equivocation there.)

This seems sane to me. How about you?

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