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[–] spiderwort@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You are asking us to tolerate the intolerant.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

that's what tolerance is. not tolerating them is being intolerant, and self-defeating ultimately.

sorry, should we go an extirpate the Amish because they don't accept lgbt+ people in their community? or another community that disagrees with lgbt identities? are we going to bomb the middle east in the name of trans rights? those are utter ridiculous ideas, so is the idea of being 'stamping out intolerance'. all that tells me is you think others should conform to your beliefs or be removed.

no, we're not. because that's insane. we tolerate the intolerate all the time. just like you don't scream at your annoying co-worker who bores you to tears about sports or wahtever shit they try to chat you up about.

[–] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Look up the paradox of tolerance. In order to be tolerant, you must be intolerant of intolerance.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

ok. lets just round up all the intolerant people and re-educate them until they are tolerant like we are.

because it's totally cool fo us tolerant people to be fascists, as long as we are eliminating fascism!

[–] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hey man, I'm just sharing the philosophical concept of what happens when a society is tolerant of everyone.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

No one is suggesting that only fascism can prevent fascism. It's the 'right to refuse service' when people are being an asshole, and you have to exercise that right when people go too far. There have to be some consequences for being intolerant in order to maintain a tolerant society.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

No one where? Here?

Where I live in liberal leftie land... people are 100% often totally for facism, as long as it's targeted at the 'right' people. And ironically, also they all bend over backwards to accommodate assholes as long as have a minority identity, because you know, it's perfectly ok to treat people like shit because you're categorically oppressed.

And in the few spaces that are generally open to everyone... they get shit on by these same supposed tolerant people, becuse these spaces are not 'safe' if the evil bad majority is allowed into them.

It's pure insanity. Largely fueled by nitwits who have no experience with genuine oppression and tell me I'm an asshole when I tell them my stories of genuine racist and sexism, because it makes them 'uncomfortable'. lol

[–] spiderwort@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I do not dress to suit the amish. And I do not speak to suit these gender-obsessives. Towards that sort of dictation, no, I do not practice tolerance.

But I do tolerate those who think (dress, live etc ) differently from me to peacefully do their thing.

(To clear up your equivocation there.)

This seems sane to me. How about you?