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[-] finthechat@kbin.social 134 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Bethesda was under no obligation to talk to these mod devs beforehand. But it sure makes them look bad. As a recent comparable, Concerned Ape was open and communicative with all the mod devs before releasing his latest patch for Stardew Valley, a game that is just about as old as Fallout 4.

Bethesda has become a literal laughingstock at this point in time and it's just funny to point at them every time they rack up another L.

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 69 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They had no obligation, but there was no reason they couldn't take the minimal effort and put out a blog post saying that the update would break mods. The modding scene is the only thing keeping Bethesda's games relevant (except New Vegas, but that's not really Bethesda's achievement).

[-] Renacles@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

Every single update breaks mods that rely on a script extender because it changes the game's binary.

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Those compatibility issues were always quickly rectified. The last time a script extender was borked to the point where the developer had to make an announcement was Skyrim AE.

[-] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

If all they do is add more Creation Club content, all that happens is the functions people are hooking end up the same, but at different addresses. After the first few Creation Club updates, tools were made to automate mapping old addresses to new ones, and most script-extender-based mods could be made to work with just an Address Library update, which said which new addresses to use.

This is not that kind of update. The compiler version and settings used have changed, so functions, even ones that do the same thing, end up with different machine code at different addresses. This means a lot of mods will need making from scratch, and a lot of mods will need lots of work tracking down which functions need hooking now and how to do it even if there's still stuff that's salvageable.

[-] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Some people are conveniently forgetting this.

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