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I know these are currently out of fashion but I'm still thankful they exist.

Let's remind ourselves of devices that use(d) these standardized batteries:

  • Toys
  • Digital cameras
  • Torches
  • Gadgets like fans
  • Wireless keyboards
  • TV remotes

Thanks to having a standardized system of batteries,

  • You can use the same battery across several devices. This is a no brainer but it's very practical.
  • Batteries can charge quicker thanks to being put in a dedicated charger and not being limited by USB cables. (But yes I concede that USB has been updated for faster charging over the years)
  • Devices don't have down time when their battery is charging. To charge, the battery is removed from the device and can immediately be replaced with a fresh one.
  • You'll never have to trash a device due to an expired battery. Just buy a replacement. And building on this...
  • Any improvements in future battery technology can be retro-fitted into your existing devices. And there is a high incentive for future improvement, because...
  • An accessible (due to easy replacement) and large (due to many devices) battery market is very attractive to competition.

If you look at the pros I listed, they all happen to be things that would be very useful for electric cars. So I think it would aid the adoption of electric cars if their batteries were standardized too.

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[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Thank you for this post.

I actively avoid buying things with a built in battery. Long ago I spend a pretty good amount on a rechargeable Braun electric razor. A few years later I had to throw it away because the battery stopped taking a charge and I had no way to replace it. I had a drill with the same fate. There was plenty of life left in these devices but not in their custom batteries.

[–] Usernameblankface@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

I've pulled one of those wireless trimmers apart when it quit working. I found a rechargeable AA battery soldered in there.

[–] Bobbinapples@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I refuse to buy cordless powertools. I know it's not exactly the same as built-in batteries, but In their short existence, I have already seen proprietary rechargeable batteries become discontinued (My mom wanted to get an extra battery for a handheld vacuum, couldn't find the battery by itself, so bought what she thought was the same model; nope, they changed the battery design, even though the rest of the new vacuum was the same as the old one)

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Cordless power tools are absolutely worth it, if you use them even infrequently, and every single contactor I know uses them. The battery packs are ridiculously priced but they wouldn't be used so ubiquitously (especially by professionals) if they weren't worth the drawbacks. Having to string out extension cords for every tool would be a nightmare.

[–] Lowbird@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

I dunno, if you use them infrequently, having to string out a cord shouldn't be any more of a hassle than for a vacuum, no?

And if you're buying a cheap, probably-won't-use-this much tool, I think you can get better power out of a corded tool for the price, which seems like a god tradeoff to me.

[–] Burp@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It’s be way harder for me to go back to corded tools. Li-Po tools are incredibly convenient. I’ve been able to buy adapters for dewalt batteries that make them work with all kinds of tools and devices (including an adapter for a Dyson handheld vacuum).
Lightweight, powerful, and the batteries can be swapped (as well as a decent amount of aftermarket batteries and adapters).

[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I have a few, select cordless tools. Drill is the first that comes to mind. I also have a corded drill because it was cheap to buy and has much more torque than the cordless.

Hmmm. Drill might be the only one. Most of my use is around the house so not a lot of need for cordless.

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Exactly! It's a shame that they're becoming less common as hardware gets enshittified

[–] B0rax@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

The batteries in Braun razors are replaceable. They even sell those. It’s not terribly difficult, but you need basic solder skills.

[–] wjrii@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

If you're in the US, Ryobi has changed chemistries once or twice, but they haven't changed the voltage or physical format of their batteries for 20+ years.