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[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I have such mixed feelings- on one hand having the gov shut you down over bullshit is insanely dystopian. On the other, I can’t stand click bait scripted internet videos…

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

insanely dystopian

In a way...

But compare that to countries where no one can hold you accountable for being an asshole. You end up with people trying to out asshole each other, in my state it's not abnormal to hear about road rage leading to shootings in traffic.

But when you look back at the vast majority of human history, this was the type of shit most enforced:

Don't be a lying asshole and get the whole tribe worked up because you wanted attention.

Now, if this happened because she said a government official was an asshole, or that society could be better...

That would be insanely dystopian

[–] FMT99@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The big problem is that one usually leads to the other. Saying politically unpopular things in a way those governments perceive as threatening often leads to more than just administrative fines.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago

...

So...

Same argument Elon musk and Joe Rogaine makes?

[–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago

Imagine if this was the response whether videos of people claiming 40 beheaded babies would have come into existence

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago

Having an inherent risk attached to whenever you create bullshit seems perfectly fine to me. It's not like any social media personality is accidentally doing what they are doing.

[–] 1917isnow@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

No, people lying on social media to children to make a living is dystopian. Stop it, get some help.

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But where do you draw the line? If I make videos of scripted bits, should I be removed from the net if I don’t put a giant disclaimer first? What about the burden of verification?

Like I said, I don’t like scripted reality or clickbait, I’m fine with that going away. Get some help!

[–] 1917isnow@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Acting like it's impossible to distinguish between Infowars and Tim and Eric Awesome Show Great Job is not a compelling argument to me and it would never hold up in court.

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Like I said, I kinda agree, and that’s why I’d like to see ancient aliens, pretty much all reality tv, etc taken off the air- none of it is real but is presented as such. Not to mention 85% of Fox “News”. But once you purge all of that, where is the line?

[–] 1917isnow@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not a slippery slope, you can actually codify good definitions of "stochastic terrorism". Of course it would be misused by a right wing government but that's not really exclusive to censorship.

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but was the chick in the original post committing acts of terrorism? That’s what I’m getting at. It’s stupid, but should it involve a total perma-ban? I dunno.

[–] 1917isnow@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I actually don't think it should be punished as terrorism. I'm sorry if that was unclear but let's extend this concept if you can commit terrorism stochastically can't you also commit child abuse and harm stochastically? It's not legal to do things like tell children to eat dirt they're too stupid it's not fair, same principle should apply to advertising and disinformation IMO.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

Actually having the government shut these leeches up is good and cool