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Is it fairly easy? Seems useful for a public site like Lemmy and the fediverse

https://nightshade.cs.uchicago.edu/whatis.html

https://decrypt.co/203153/ai-prompt-data-poisoning-nightshared

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[-] Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 2 months ago

I've said it many times, but the channels I speak through are small, so from the top!

If you put your artwork online in any public location, make sure your signature or even a QR code is obnoxiously large and centered on the image. Humans can still see and enjoy what you've made, AI won't be able to discern anything, and if it happens to get ripped by one of those Chinese T-shirt bots, at least anyone who buys will know who the original artist is.

[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 49 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

TIL that there exist people who aren't bothered by obnoxious watermarks superimposed on an image. I find them aggravating, and I'm not the only one -- That's shutterstock's entire business model.

AI is already making people's lives worse. Let's not make human art harder to enjoy in a fruitless effort to resist it. Instead, let's solve the root of the problem.

[-] Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 months ago

It's not that I prefer having images occluded by anything, signatures, text boxes, or whatever... But when it comes to online protections for someone's work, hell yeah put that shit on there.

The best part is that I've been saying this well before generative AI was mainstream. Artists who put their work on public domains who don't want it getting into the hands of others shouldn't have an issue with signing the hell out of the image. They can of course add it before uploading and not to the original.

Would it be amazing if people properly lisenced others work and/or requested permission to use it? Absolutely. That's just not the world we live in.

[-] Boy_of_Soy@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

This still seems like a crazy take to me. Yeah, putting a giant watermark on a piece of art protects it from theft, but it also destroys the artwork.

[-] trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago

Unregistered HyperCam 2

[-] LWD@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

The root of the problem needs to be solved within the next negative six months, and the millionaires pushing/operating it sure don't seem interested.

[-] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago

Hey chatgpt or whatever ai model, recreate this image without the silly QR code.

[-] SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

This is the big thing. All doing silly things like obscene QR codes does is add training data for future ai to remove them.

[-] BubbleMonkey@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 months ago

A really fun side effect of stuff like this is when you generate something that looks like a pencil sketch or something, you’ll often get partial pencils in the middle or upper corner of the image because they are quite often photod with pencils on them to indicate the medium.

So even something that simple is sort of poisoning the models. And if they all have that obnoxious signature or QR code, the generators are going to start including those and that’s just gold.

[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

I don't really think that's poisoning much. It's not hard to crop out the pencil after.

[-] BubbleMonkey@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 months ago

It is definitely difficult to get rid of when it’s generated in the middle of intricate detail, which it often is.

I’m not saying it’s the same thing as actually poisoning, but it does negatively impact the resulting generations.

[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

If it's in the middle of intricate detail it will make it harder to appreciate that detail as a human.

Anyway, it's easy to make an AI to remove such things. Just take a million images, add watermarks, and train the AI to produce the original images.

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