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Elon Musk‘s erratic posting on X, formerly Twitter, has come back to haunt him once again as a 22-year-old Jewish man pursues a defamation case over tweets in which the tech mogul baselessly suggested the recent college graduate was an undercover federal agent posing as a neo-Nazi during a street fight between far-right groups. Musk’s excruciating March 27 deposition in the matter, which a judge ordered released to the public over the objections of the CEO’s lawyer, reveals the extent to which he has continually sabotaged both himself and the social media platform he owns.

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[–] Sprawlie@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

most people born into wealth do not flaunt it like Musk or Trump do. They are the exception not the rule.

they do so because of ego. They NEED the attention. Meanwhile, most billionaires don't go around publicly buying things like that. They do have investments similar, but they do so without appointing themselves as god emperor of the company.

The fact that Musk insists he must be the public face for any company he puts money into evidences extreme narcissism and the belief he is a genius.

Meanwhile. Other than seeing money and being a part time engineer for Space X. He doesn't have any real direct success for actual labour / work he's done. It's his inherited money that seems to have done the bulk of work. Buying in to banking, buying into space x, buying into tesla, buying into X. All essentially ideas by other people who just needed seed money.

[–] oce@jlai.lu -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

You've moved to points about flaunting, having an egocentric media presence, and the absence of personal engineering success. I think I agree with those, but those are different points. My point was about how he became that rich, compared to other people with similar parents money, if he is a complete idiot.

[–] Sprawlie@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

My point was about how he became that rich, compared to other people with similar parents money, if he is a complete idiot.

But you're still wrong. Lots of people who inherited money grew their wealth, without the need to have their face in the media constantly.

the reason we see so much of Musk is because he purposely puts himself in the public. There are more billionaires than just Musk who have grown their wealth without you ever knowing their names. Arguably, there are far FAR more of these no-name billionaires than the Musk type.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/25-richest-billionaires-inherited-fortunes-010158127.html

some examples.

As other's have said, He has used his inheritance to create momentum and a cult of personality around himself, which has helped him make money despite being proven time and time again to be a business idiot.

So Far, He has been removed from Paypal by the board for bad leadership. He was removed from chairman of Tesla for illegal leadership and bad leadership. And all evidence has shown that he has also tanked the value of Twitter.

he has definitely convinced you through his cult of personality that he's some business genius. Rather than just a loud asshole with lots of money to burn.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

without the need to have their face in the media constantly.

That's still your point not mine, you're arguing against a point I didn make. I even told you I agree with this one.

You're using a straw man argument, I never said I consider him a business genius. Just reread what I said, there's nothing else to over interpret about it to make it easier to shut down.

[–] Sprawlie@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

My point was about how he became that rich, compared to other people with similar parents money, if he is a complete idiot.

You're lack of understanding about this doesn't constitute others arguing in a fallacious matter. We are not arguing a strawman but explaining to you HOW Musk got to where he was. Which is in SPITE of his intelligence, not because of it.

You're arguing your own fallacy based on your own lack of ability to grasp concepts. Congradulations, you're guilty of Personal Incredulity fallacy:

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/personal-incredulity