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[–] Walnut356@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please don't say the new language you're being asked to learn is "unintuitive". That's just a rude word for "not yet familiar to me"...The idea that some features are "unintuitive" rather than merely temporarily unfamiliar is just getting in your way.

Well i mean... that's kinda what "unintuitive" means. Intuitive, i.e. natural/obvious/without effort. Having to gain familiarity sorta literally means it's not that, thus unintuitive.

I dont disagree with your sentiment, but these people are using the correct term. For example, python len(object) instead of obj.len() trips me up to this day because 99% of the time i think [thing] -> [action], and most language constructs encourage that. If I still regularly type an object name, and then have to scroll the cursor back over and type "len(", i cant possibly be using my intuition. It's not the language's "fault" - because it's not really "wrong" - but it is unintuitive.

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you only know C and you're looking at Python, the absence of curly braces on code blocks is temporarily unfamiliar to you.

But if you only know Python and you're looking at C, the fact that indentation doesn't matter is temporarily unfamiliar to you.

Once you learn the new language, it's not unfamiliar to you anymore.

"Unintuitive" often suggests that there's something wrong with the language in a global sense, just because it doesn't look like the last one you used — as if the choice to use (or not use) curly braces is natural and anything else is willfully perverse on the part of the language designer.