this post was submitted on 23 Mar 2024
205 points (95.2% liked)

News

23305 readers
3692 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Walt Disney Co on Friday said that remarks by activist investor Nelson Peltz criticizing the company for making movies dominated by female and Black actors is evidence that he shouldn't be on Disney's board.

Peltz, whose fight to join Disney as a director has become one of the year's most bitter and closely watched board battles, in an interview with the Financial Times said Disney's films have become too focused on delivering a message, and not enough on quality storytelling. He specifically took issue with "The Marvels" and "Black Panther."

“Why do I have to have a Marvel that’s all women? Not that I have anything against women, but why do I have to do that?" Peltz said in the interview, published on Friday. "Why can’t I have Marvels that are both? Why do I need an all-Black cast?”

Asked about Peltz's remarks, a Disney spokesperson responded: "This is exactly why Nelson Peltz shouldn't be anywhere near a creatively driven company."

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] catch22@startrek.website 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Where the sex or amount of melanin someone has isn't a defining characteristic of the story, it just shouldn't matter if you swap genders or whatever assuming similar levels of acting ability. Disney I generally see as a corporate whore, but good on them for sticking to this. Fuck you peltz.

[–] GlitterInfection@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago (3 children)

While I agree with what you're saying, Disney didn't change the gender or racial identities of the characters he's complaining about.

Ms. Marvel, Monica Rambeau, and Carol Danvers as Captain Marvel are all very well cast for their roles. They're practically plucked out of the pages of the comics, and match on race and gender identity from the source.

And Black Panther is about a super hero protector of a nation of black people. The answer to this racist's question is literally in the name of the movie.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Hell, I almost wonder if "a Marvel" is the best way his Boomer ass can articulate "a big-budget superhero project made by Disney."

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

While I agree with what you’re saying, Disney didn’t change the gender or racial identities of the characters he’s complaining about.

Fun trivia: Nick Fury is a white guy in the comics, but the MCU version with Jackson is so iconic I don't think anyone but the most die hard racist + comic nerd intersection people still complain about it.

[–] Just_Not_Funny@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Fun trivia: The Ultimate comic universe actually introduced a black Nick Fury nearly 10 years before Jackson played him on the big screen.

[–] Desistance@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Even more fun fact, the Ultimate version was literally modeled after Sam Jackson so it came full circle.

[–] GlitterInfection@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

I had forgotten that he was a white guy so I went to look up the character... and was surprised to find out that they actually turned Nick Fury into Samuel L. Jackson in the comics 7 years BEFORE casting him to play the character.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Fury_(Marvel_Cinematic_Universe)

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

He really did pick some of the worst examples to make his stupid point.

[–] Hillock@feddit.de 9 points 7 months ago

Changing the design of a beloved character was always met with criticism and skepticism. When James Bond was made blonde by casting Daniel Craig there was as much of an uproar amongst the fan base as when Ariel was made black.

If a movie is good, people will accept the design changes, if the movie is bad people will blame the design changes. And some people just never get over the design changes and will refuse to give it a chance.

The discussion is just a bit more heated because of the current social and political climate. But that's mostly by people who don't even care about the movie and just use the topic to stir the pot.