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[–] Elmerfuddz@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn’t mind being able to give up my car and truck. But since I’m out in rural parts. It wouldn’t workout too well when it came to other needs.

[–] PastaCeci@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I lived in rural places without a car. This is an American problem because of policy not because you are rural.

[–] Elmerfuddz@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I have trailers I use haul firewood and such. I burn about 3 quarts a year.

[–] PastaCeci@lemmy.ml 17 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Normal people outside of America in rural places live in communities that can arrange for firewood delivery. The only reason you need your own truck is because you don't have any semblance of infrastructure, community or mutual aid. This is a policy choice and a failure of your culture.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I've lived in a rural area and my neighbors were always happy to lend me something if I needed it. If I needed a truck to haul wood I could just borrow one, or even get it delivered.

[–] Elmerfuddz@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

So if I didn’t have a truck and you don’t have a truck. Nobody 20 miles around you doesn’t have a truck. What you do now? What you’re saying is you rely on others. Thats nice and all, but at some point you need to do stuff “Yourself”.

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Not the person you replied too, but US is so large, I can imagine there's situations where policy can't support those sorts of things. Not mention the fact that people who live in rural areas are more likely to have a culture of not wanting to interact with others and doing things on their own. Regardless, many of the policy changes to reduce car usage are really aimed at reducing car usage in dense areas rather than outright bans or the like. If these policies continue to work out in the US, the relatively few people living in rural areas with vehicles wouldn't be problematic (in terms of causing traffic nor causing injuries/deaths)

[–] PastaCeci@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The US is in no way exceptional or different than anywhere else.

Only in America is "doing things on their own" involve running a global empire to ensure their supply of oil. Without the federal government subsidizing rural people in America it would be physically impossible for them to live there, this is literally the opposite of being independent they are extremely dependent on massive globalized infrastructure.

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not everyone wants the US to run a global empire and coincidentally, the people were talking about are more likely to want the US interfering less with their lives and outside the country.

[–] PastaCeci@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

Then they better get used to not having trucks.

[–] Elmerfuddz@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Well thank you! So if everyone relied on the same service for firewood. It be like Amazon where it’ll take 3 days minimum to get it. Plus I pay next to nothing. My land has trees. I cut them down, and then replant new quarter grown trees. Not everything is delivery like some are thinking.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Cord of wood for anyone interested or just hasn't visualized how much for wood a cord is

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Eh, wasn't too far off estimating that at 4 Raummeter: A cord is 3.62m^2^, close enough. In both cases you measure the total volume, including gaps, with quite some leeway in size of the pieces but they gotta be stacked or you get much less wood.

Common when buying firewood because it's delivered like that and space on the truck is ultimately more expensive than the gaps in the wood and caloric value differs, anyway, whereas wood for construction or furniture use is sold by solid square metre. Either measured or calculated from weight+humidity+some wood-specific constant. Lots of eyeballing in those measures but it all averages out in the end, you loose some you get some.

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I have trailers I use haul firewood and such. I burn about 3 quarts a year.

If that's for heating, ideally you'd be using a heat pump / reverse cycle AC as wood burning heaters are harmful to health due to PM2.5 particles and bad for the environment due to emissions. But I get that there is a bit of an upfront cost that may be dissuading you.

[–] Elmerfuddz@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I have a cat similar to vehicle that super heats up. I barely produce any smoke or anything. It’s a device inside a wood Burning stove that doubles its temperature to burn anything left from the smoke.