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Lemmy.world seems to have banned the largest piracy community on Lemmy. (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
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This has happened once before and they reversed it. But they said this last time too:

The discussions that have happened in various threads on Lemmy make it very clear that removing the communites before we announced our intent to remove them is not the level of transparency the community expects, and that as stewards of this community we need to be extremely transparent before we do this again in the future as well as make sure that we get feedback around what the planned changes are, because lemmy.world is yours as much as it is ours.

https://lemmy.world/post/3234363

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[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If we get to 500k or 5M users, things will naturally get way more decentralized.

What makes you think that? I abandoned my kbin account because all the content is on lemmy and I don't feel like waiting 4 hours to get that content on kbin. People will go where the content is.

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

That's just because kbin doesn't work properly though. One reason why things are centralized is because there are only so many servers that actually work well.

Events like this removal of the piracy community will naturally cause people to spread out over time. You could even see people try to spread out on reddit by making new subs when they chafed at the rules.

The more people we have, the more diverse we will become, and thus it will be necessary to create new servers to accommodate these different types of people. That's my instinct, but there are many different ways it could go.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Content loads just as fast on small subs as on large subs. Not so for instances. I think centralization is inevitable unless federated data transfer gets faster.

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It usually is federated quickly within Lemmy itself. I can't speak for kbin but in my experience on SJW, I typically get all the content from remote instances in real time.

I know there are some technical issues with the scaling of federation though, but hopefully that can be improved on.

[–] Blaze@dormi.zone 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Here is a dashboard of synchronisation time between the most popular instances: https://grafana.lem.rocks/d/cdfzs0dwal3pca/federation-health-time-behind?orgId=1&var-instance=All&var-remote_instance=aussie.zone&var-remote_instance=lemmy.blahaj.zone&var-remote_instance=lemmy.ml&var-remote_instance=lemmy.nz&var-remote_instance=reddthat.com&var-remote_instance=sh.itjust.works&var-remote_instance=slrpnk.net&var-remote_software=All&from=now-12h&to=now

As you can see, the only three instances synchronizing in more than 5 minutes are

  • reddthat, based in Australia
  • lemmy.nz, in New Zealand
  • aussie.zone, Australia too
  • feddit.ch, closing at the end of the month

For the 3 first instances, this is due to lag and centralization of communities on LW. Moving communities away from LW would actually help solving that issue (in parallel, Reddthat is planning to open an EU server to reduce the lag)

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Are these all lemmy clients?

[–] Blaze@dormi.zone 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy instances. The graph shows how long it takes for content to go from one instance to another, which is a few minutes at most

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Gotcha. Makes me wish I had the technical know how to spin up my own instance. Those really are like subreddits then.

[–] Blaze@dormi.zone 1 points 7 months ago

To be fair, for most people it is better to just use a another instance. Instance maintenance can take quite some time

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Huh, that's too bad about feddit.ch, at least they have a good alternative in feddit.de I suppose.

Good info btw 👌

[–] Blaze@dormi.zone 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And jlai.lu for the French speakers!

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

And feddit.it also!