What's the difference between "Remove ads" and "Sync Ultra"? (lemmy.world)

submitted 11 months ago by solrecon@lemmy.world to c/syncforlemmy@lemmy.world

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I'm loving Sync so far. I used the official reddit app ever since I was on Reddit. I sure was missing out.

I saw on the left bar there's two options "Remove ads" and "Sync Ultra". What's the difference? I understand ultra is a subscription that gets ad free browsing and more. However, remove ads looks to be a single purchase "add-on", i.e. no subscription. Is that the case? That would be nice down the line when sync for lemmy gets an official stable release.

There's also a price difference. Ultra is 1.99$/mo or 16.99$/yr, and remove ads is 12.99$.

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[-] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 55 points 11 months ago

Remove ads is 22 euros here. That's a massive difference from the old app. Almost ten times more I believe?

[-] ComradeBunnie@aussie.zone 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Crying in $34 Aussie dollaydoos.

A bit of a surprise; I know I was lucky to get the old Sync pro app for under $2 a decade ago, but wow.

[-] solrecon@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

It's unfortunate that the price is up, but it's better than spending for a subscription for ad removal.

[-] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 14 points 11 months ago

Is it better than just, you know, not using sync? This isn’t Reddit. There aren’t ads here.

[-] solrecon@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

I understand. I was using liftoff and that was pretty good for me (still have it as a backup). I also tried jebora and connect. Sync is definitely the most polished, even in beta. I'm not going to remove ads until I know I want to stick with sync, but it definitely feels like I'm headed that way.

[-] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social -1 points 11 months ago

Try the kbin PWA. The only thing I miss is the ability to collapse comments and that’s coming.

[-] twistypencil@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

PWA?

[-] Stuka@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

Web app

[-] curlygirl@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Progressive web app, it's like adding an app from your internet browser. Kinda like a bookmark.

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Progressive_web_apps/Guides/Installing

[-] GiddyGap@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

Lemmy still has a lot less users than reddit. The dev can't rely on tens of thousands of users to buy the app for $1 each. I think he's doing a great job with this app and I don't mind supporting him.

Also, the addition of Sync to the lemmy ecosystem will draw a ton of new people in and help grow the platform.

[-] ComradeBunnie@aussie.zone 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I understand that I got a magnificent deal on Reddit Sync - I think it was on sale at the time.

I was ready to happily drop $15 on the ad free, but this is more than double that.

[-] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 16 points 11 months ago

The pool of people willing to buy an app for Lemmy is a lot smaller than Reddit, so it makes sense to jack up the price.

[-] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Fair enough. It's still a lot of money though.

[-] ericisshort@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Is it though? It’s the price of a meal at a moderately priced restaurant or less than 2 months subscription of a streaming service, and you only ever have to pay for it once.

[-] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago

Considering it’s removing something it added in the first place? Yes

[-] ericisshort@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Ok, but how is that different from any other ad-supported media?

[-] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

Because this one is built on the back of an anticapitalist project.

[-] Rossel@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

How is Lemmy an "anticapitalist project". I know the devs political orientation, but tech is tech, not really politically aligned by itself.
Besides, if it were anticapitalist, they should not have used the GPLv3 as their license, as it explicitly allows third parties to profit off the project.

[-] Dark_Arc@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Ehh... No.

[-] 1019throw@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

My question is, what costs are associated with it? The app was essentially built, the dev needed to make some changes and link to the new API which should be free now? Generally curious, because I previously paid $3 for the pro app on Reddit.

[-] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Well, let's just do the math: the original pro version has over 100,000 downloads over it's 10 years of life. At $3, that means the dev earn at least $300,000 over 10 years, minus 30% play store fee. Let's say they earn at least $27,000 per year, which is almost twice the minimum wage at the very least.

Now lets do the math for Lemmy version: some metrics say we have 1 million users. Let's assume 10% of them are active users (100,000), and among those active users, lets assume 10% of them (10,000) buy Sync for Lemmy at $3 one time purchase (a very generous estimate). This means the dev will get $27,000 (after 30% cut from play store) from those users, ever. With this amount of money, the dev will need to earn their living somewhere else and abandon their app after a year.

[-] 1019throw@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I assume the dev didn't just make the app and think he can just retire, it was just one income stream for other stuff they develop and sell, but point taken.