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[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

>And people hate vegans because most people want to believe they’re at least “pretty good people”, and the very presence of a vegan challenges that belief. If you’re offended, maybe it’s time to look in the mirror.

is this even provable? has anyone ever said that's why they, themselves, hate vegans?

[–] MilitantVegan@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)
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[–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

this video does not have anyone saying that is why they hate vegans

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

has anyone been able to replicate any studies on this?

[–] MilitantVegan@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (13 children)

I am just going to respond to all of your other messages here, because it's the same answer: it is not my job to educate you. YOU are the one who is continuing to live in a way that's morally repugnant. What you are doing is directly supporting a system that is routinely putting billions of lives through a real life hell - their entire existence is suffering - only to be butchered at the equivalent of an adolescent or juvenile age. What you are consuming is the traumatized remains of beings who were basically children, who were confined as part of a perpetual holocaust that's being conducted at an unprecedented scale. They committed no crimes. They are completely innocent. And you abuse them anyway, and mock the few people who try to undo this injustice.

That's not even getting into the devastating health effects of consuming animals, or the wanton destruction of the environment and greenhouse gas emissions that go with it.

Do you count yourself a leftist, or in any way oppose the fascist republicans? Well the animal ag industry is one of their primary sources of revenue, and meat and dairy consumption is central to the white nationalist identity. Non-vegan leftists are not leftists at all, because you can't even bring justice to your own dinner table, and you are directly paying the fascists every day.

It is YOUR job to get educated, and get right.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 1 points 7 months ago

>you are directly paying the fascists every day

there is no ethical consumption under capitalism. anything you pay for, you are lining the pockets of fascists.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 1 points 7 months ago

> They are completely innocent

you can't be innocent without moral agency. are trees and rocks innocent, too?

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 7 months ago

> Non-vegan leftists are not leftists

better tell marx and proudhon

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 7 months ago

>It is YOUR job to get educated, and get right.

don't worry about me. just try supporting your own arguments.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 7 months ago

>What you are consuming is the traumatized remains of beings who were basically children, who were confined as part of a perpetual holocaust that’s being conducted at an unprecedented scale.

this is purely appeal to emotion. it's not even true. it's not a holocaust.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 7 months ago

>you abuse them anyway, and mock the few people who try to undo this injustice.

where did i mock anyone?

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 7 months ago

>Do you count yourself a leftist, or in any way oppose the fascist republicans?

kind of hilarious that you think the republicans are fascist but you didn't mention the democrats

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 7 months ago

>YOU are the one who is continuing to live in a way that’s morally repugnant.

false

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 7 months ago

>it is not my job to educate you.

it's your job to support your claims

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 7 months ago

> What you are doing is directly supporting a system that is routinely putting billions of lives through a real life hell - their entire existence is suffering - only to be butchered at the equivalent of an adolescent or juvenile age.

another lie

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 7 months ago

>you abuse them

another falsehood.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 7 months ago

>That’s not even getting into the devastating health effects of consuming animals, or the wanton destruction of the environment and greenhouse gas emissions that go with it.

this is a non sequitur. it reads like you're grasping at straws

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 7 months ago

> meat and dairy consumption is central to the white nationalist identity.

so is breathing. i'm not going to give that up just because bad people do it, too

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

No, he is speaking how he imagines things are. Vegans, like everyone else, can be great people or horrible people. No illusions there.

No amount of veganism makes them better humans.

It's always good for a laugh when a vegan thinks like this though