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[–] Even_Adder@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 months ago (7 children)

It's impossible to LARP as an artist. Everyone who creates is an artist, whether you like it or not.

[–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago (6 children)

AI tech bros don’t create anything and probably never will. The merchant who said “please paint a picture of my wife here’s some money” didn’t create the Mona Lisa. Da Vinci, the guy who actually painted it, created the Mona Lisa.

[–] brainw0rms@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

Somehow I doubt da Vinci and a modern digital artist toiling away in Photoshop would be able to agree on the definition of, or criteria for, what it means to be an artist...

[–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Again, another thing that sounds good unless you know what you’re talking about. I paint digitally and with acrylic and oil, which isn’t that different from the methods Da Vinci would have utilized. If you wanted to paint the Mona Lisa in photoshop the expertise required is the same minus only color mixing and physical preparation and finishing. Regardless of method, saying “paint this picture for me” isn’t making art. The claim is on its face absurd. If I go to the hospital and say “heal this person” am I now a doctor?

Weird how all it takes to turn an ostensible leftist into a sneering lib condescending to an entire classification of worker is to insult their little toy.

[–] brainw0rms@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I paint digitally and with acrylic and oil, which isn’t that different from the methods Da Vinci would have utilized. If you wanted to paint the Mona Lisa in photoshop the expertise required is the same minus only color mixing and physical preparation and finishing.

So, you're really saying the expertise required is not the same, then?

Regardless of method, saying “paint this picture for me” isn’t making art. The claim is on its face absurd.

Who is claiming that? Not me. Anyone who has used a generative AI tool for more than 10 seconds knows this isn't true.

If I go to the hospital and say “heal this person” am I now a doctor?

This is a bad analogy. If in some far off future we had some magical "auto-doc" device that could heal injuries, etc., but still required someone with sufficient knowledge to operate the device, I would call them a doctor, or perhaps a medical engineer. Yes.

Weird how all it takes to turn an ostensible leftist into a sneering lib condescending to an entire classification of worker is to insult their little toy.

What did you mean by this? The only one sneering and condescending here is you lol.

[–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

This is a bad analogy. If in some far off future we had some magical "auto-doc" device that could heal injuries, etc., but still required someone with sufficient knowledge to operate the device, I would call them a doctor, or perhaps a medical engineer. Yes.

“Text goes in images come out” is the central conceit of the entire technology, what the hell are you talking about. The entire thing is meant to be super easy. I have used it, it does not require any special expertise.

[–] brainw0rms@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago

If that were true, there would be no reason for advanced tools like ComfyUI to exist.

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