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USA leftists in favor of voting for Biden: What other direct action should we do? (lemm.ee)

submitted 4 months ago by anarchost@lemm.ee to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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A few things that are accessible within the USA include:

Participating in mutual aid programs
Campaigning on the local level, including for positions like poll watchers
Making your voice heard in community events in general
Joining your local DSA, networking

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[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I can’t win

Leftism isn't about winning, that's the part you're missing. If you're just doing what you can to win than you're no different to and will fall for the same things as a fascist. I remember hearing "leftists are addicted to losing" and what makes that quote especially good is that it came from a guy who later outed themselves as being a fascist infiltrator once they no longer needed to convince people to vote Democrat.

Marxists don't care about winning. That's idealism. What we want is an improving of material conditions for the working class.

[–] themarty27@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What he meant is that people are unhappy when he asks about non-voters, and also when he asks about voters. He can't win [the approval of people on Lemmy]. Also, not all leftists are marxists.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml -3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

If you can be a "leftist" without being at least some branch of marxism, than the term has lost all its meaning. I mean you don't have to like the guy (he has many flaws) to realize the importance his work had on kickstarting the anticapitalist movement that started the left.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I self identify as a leftist but I don't think I'm ready to call myself a marxist. Maybe one day that will change, maybe not. Regardless of what definitions you may be about to link for me, what I think usually separates me from those I view as liberals is that they tend not to see corporate greed as a problem, or not as a pervasive problem.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The problem with corporation isn't the "greed," becuase that aspect is unsolvable. It's that their current structure exists to exploit everything possible to benefit a very small number of people and they all act in cohort without coordination. A virtuous corporation cannot exist.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It’s that their current structure exists to exploit everything possible to benefit a very small number of people

I'm going to keep calling this greed.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

Call it Capitalism. It's a systemic issue, not a lack of individual morals.