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[–] infinitevalence@discuss.online 40 points 9 months ago (3 children)

If the choice is starve or work for this company, then yes its ethical.

If your skills and experience can transfer to other companies and jobs, then no its not ethical IMO.

[–] rainynight65@feddit.de 4 points 9 months ago

If the choice is to starve or work for this company, then it's pragmatic to work there. No, it's not ethical. That being said, not everyone is in the fortunate position where they can let their ethics decide where they work, and there is nothing inherently wrong with that.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah most engineers in defense work aren’t starved for jobs, but in fact are paid the most by military contractors. It’s like Snowden working for Booz Allen Hamilton, government contractors pay talented people a ton to advance their goals and keep their mouth shut. But they could make less working somewhere else

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How far do you take it?

Work in food supply that feeds the people who make end weapons?

[–] Syd@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Working in that industry you're creating food. It's purpose is to nourish people. Working in an industry that makes weapons to harm, and kill is intrinsically different.

[–] throwwyacc@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do you believe that a nation has no need for weapons?

Or rather is it immoral for a nation to keep and equip a defence force?

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you know that your nation is going to use the weapons for imperialism (as America Russia and China do) they in fact need less weapons.

[–] throwwyacc@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What imperialism is America doing currently?

But besides that, even if your nation is doing imperialist things surely you would agree that maintaining an army to not get your country absolutely destroyed by any other country at any time is valid

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The biggest new one right now is Pakistan but all the old ones such as DRC too of course

And you know... Israel....

[–] throwwyacc@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In what world are those imperialist projects? Can you qualify that in some way? Let's go with 1, say Pakistan

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Pakistan has their government overthrown by an American backed military dictatorship to give mortar shells to Ukraine.

DRC gets supplied with weapons by America for its internal wars.

[–] throwwyacc@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I can't find any solid evidence for this Pakistan claim. I see that an anonymous source reached out to one outlet, but I haven't found anything to corroborate Seems a bit tenuous thus far. Do you have any evidence you've seen in particular?

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

https://theintercept.com/2023/08/09/imran-khan-pakistan-cypher-ukraine-russia/

tldr: Pakistan wanted to stay neutral on Russia-Ukraine, America wanted to give their mortar shells to Ukraine. Imran Khan said no. America overthrew Imran khan, got him arrested and installed a military dictatorship.

In the recent election people in Pakistan still voted Imran Khan, the military government backed by America just ignored it.