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submitted 11 months ago by Foresight@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

When I was growing up the internet was a place to be liberated from the world say what you want to say, be whoever you want and form genuine communities with shared interests. Now the internet feels like a tool to enslave the mind with identity echo chambers and any deviation leads you to being banned and blocked shunned and silenced within a void that is inescapable. Novel unique websites coded manually by hobbyists running servers for free in the commons allowing people access to the free flow of information under the banner of "information should be free" has largely gone away with corpratisation. I miss the days when the internet was populated largely by nerds aiming to make a better world not this controlled censored hell hole of profiteering.

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[-] darq@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago

I mean the problem is capitalism, not people's identities. Everything is run to extract profit, rather than out of genuine interest.

[-] Foresight@lemmy.ml -4 points 11 months ago

Identity a product of the individual in liberalism the prevailing ideology of capitalism, sure let's ignore people's selfservicing interest and greed....

[-] darq@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

I'm not even sure what you could mean by this. People have identities. People gathering and forming community based on those identities isn't because of greed. And they exist even in collective cultures.

[-] Foresight@lemmy.ml -3 points 11 months ago

Well I'm sick of the atomised individualistic society.

[-] Aatube@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

Personally the diversity of all things good is part of why they are nice; I consider myself a socialist, but that doesn't mean everybody has to be the same. But even if we ignore that how would you iron everybody out into the same thing?

[-] Foresight@lemmy.ml -3 points 11 months ago

It's not diversity when segregating into smaller identity echo chambers and classifying people based on their sex, race and ethnicity etc. I prefer society that over looks these petty things for a broad multicultural unity amongst the masses not strasserite fascism.

[-] Aatube@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

Things without extremes exist. dividing into smaller groups based on what you believe is basically diversity, and I don't see that you have made the case that these groups are echo chambers. Plus a lot of people believe your argumentative style is very disruptive and ban you for that; I can see why: you always use very extreme, loaded words to label things

[-] Foresight@lemmy.ml -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Well I'm not in favour of returning to segregation of the Jim crow era, putting people into groups where they only see and hear information that confirms their confirmation bias is an echo chamber. And I'm not going to stop doing what I think is right because a group doesn't like my style, being disruptive is literally the whole point of political agitation, what do you expect me to do? Pipe down, use a style and language that is pre-approved dictated that allows for no challenge to the status quo under the excuse of sensitivity so no changes are made, maybe try changing the economic base instead of forcibly changing the individual otherwise all your doing is playing whack-a-mole.

[-] darq@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

Yes. So am I sick of our atomised society. But for goodness sake try to identify why that occurs.

The problem is capitalism. Because we are all fooled into competing with each other over scraps, rather than banding together into communities that are better able to provide support within themselves.

The fault isn't that people explore their identities and find community that way.

[-] Foresight@lemmy.ml -4 points 11 months ago

Yeah capitalism with the prevailing ideology of liberalism with peoples identity of the ego leading to individualised atomised society.

[-] darq@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

You genuinely sound like a bot generating word-salad.

[-] Foresight@lemmy.ml -4 points 11 months ago

Well I'm unwell and doing my best, never tell the NHS mental health that you are moving towards a more conservative position within the left wing sphere.

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