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Police shut more than 14,000 accounts on Mega, Tutanota and Protonmail (therecord.media)

submitted 8 months ago by ray@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 22 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I thought proton would fight before they'd comply?

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 38 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They won’t and supposedly can’t turn over information from or about the account, but they’ll absolutely close the account for engaging in illegal activity since that is a breach of their terms of service (depending on activity, of course. Complaining about the government? Probably won’t get shut down. Hacking someone to steal something valuable? They’re shutting you down).

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 8 months ago

They won’t and supposedly can’t turn over information from or about the account

Sort of, but not entirely. They use E2EE for message contents, so they would not be technically able to hand over that data (assuming their E2EE system is not compromised). However, they do NOT use E2EE for email headers, which includes email subject lines, recipients, and other metadata.

From https://proton.me/support/does-protonmail-encrypt-email-subjects:

subject lines in Proton Mail are not end-to-end encrypted, which means if served with a valid Swiss court order, we do have the ability to turn over the subjects of your messages.

From https://proton.me/support/proton-mail-encryption-explained:

Subject lines and recipient/sender email addresses are encrypted but not end-to-end encrypted

[–] nbailey@lemmy.ca 28 points 8 months ago

They’re not going to jail for you. Never assume a service provider will put themselves at risk on your behalf.