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How to Move from Mastodon to Firefish (wedistribute.org)

submitted 11 months ago by hedge@beehaw.org to c/technology@beehaw.org

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[-] Jdreben@beehaw.org 17 points 11 months ago

What are you talking about? Trending isn’t even working right now… sources please.

[-] jerome@kbin.social 17 points 11 months ago

they posted multiple anti transgender stories. obvious astroturfing. I'm out.

[-] cnnrduncan@beehaw.org 38 points 11 months ago

Isn't that a problem with specific instances/federation rather than the software itself? There are some hateful right-wing Lemmy instances too but that doesn't seem to be a problem for you as the instance you use has probably defederated from them.

[-] jerome@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago

they seem to have an issue moderating content.

[-] Chozo@kbin.social 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They're also not on your instance in the first place. You're looking at the Global feed. That isn't content from Firefish.Social, that's content from elsewhere on the Fediverse. Firefish.Social admins can't moderate content on another server.

[-] jerome@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago

I went to firefish. I made an account. On fire fish I saw anti transgender astroturfing.
Does this mean firefish is free from all douchebaggery?
No.

[-] Chozo@kbin.social 26 points 11 months ago

I'm just saying, that's like buying a window from Lowe's, installing it in your home, and then being mad at Lowe's for having a bad view. They can't control what you see when you use the tool literally designed to look at the outside world.

[-] jerome@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago

With all respect, it's nothing like that.

[-] Chozo@kbin.social 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's literally like that. That's how the Global tab works. You're seeing off-site content. It may even be off-platform, entirely.

I think your frustration is more with the basic functionality of the Fediverse, in a more general sense, than with FireFish specifically.

[-] Deestan@beehaw.org 7 points 11 months ago

That's far from a good faith interpretation of their complaint.

[-] Chozo@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago

Maybe, but the complaint seems to be based on a misunderstanding of how federated content works. What they're describing is literally content not on the instance they're saying it's on. Their own screenshot even shows that the content in question is from a different instance than the one they're using, which to me sounds more like an issue with understanding how the Fediverse works than with Firefish.Social's moderation ability.

[-] kukkurovaca@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 11 months ago

The question is, if there are instances that are full of transphobic content, and they're reported, does firefish defederate them. If they do, the view will improve. Although, global feeds are never very useful.

[-] cnnrduncan@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago

"Firefish" doesn't defederate from anything because it's just a set of software. The specific instance that that user visited might not defederate from right wing instances, but other firefish instances do.

[-] dan@upvote.au 3 points 11 months ago

I think they're taking about Firefish's default instance, rather than the software.

[-] retronautickz@beehaw.org 14 points 11 months ago

1- Never join the official instances. They always are too big that are almost impossible to moderate.

2- In which timeline did you see those comments? Because if it was global, it's possible these are unknown servers the admins aren't aware of. (The trending section is global)

[-] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 8 points 11 months ago

I mean, to be fair, the person you replied to is using Kbin rather than Lemmy - they're interacting with a Lemmy community though.

[-] sorchist@beehaw.org 12 points 11 months ago

Just to be clear, which firefish server did you join?

I just checked out the main server (firefish.social) and there wasn't any transphobic content in the "Global" or "Local" section.

I'm wondering if you ended up on a really toxic right-wing fediverse instance, that happens to use Firefish as its software, and so the Firefish main site stupidly/ignorantly listed it as a possible place to sign up. If that's the case they need to get rid of it.

[-] FlowVoid@midwest.social 1 points 11 months ago

Try a different server with better moderation. Maybe firefish.lgbt?

[-] jerome@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

[-] Jdreben@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That’s a mastodon server.

[-] CurrentBias@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago

Not to speak for @jerome, but they were originally talking about the topics appearing in the trending news, which implies that they are referring to firefish.social's federation/lack of defederation from problematic instances, not the software itself