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I definitely don’t think shame played a role. Desire for positive legacy partly, but also for a lot of history kings understood that a peasant uprising provided an opportunity for someone else to take the throne. Look at the Roman Empire. Every emperor was shameless, but some lived lives of careful acknowledgment that all it took was an ally with a dagger to end them, while others died young. Those are the two options, there were no brazen long lived Roman emperors. For most of the 20th century communism was an option if businesspeople fucked around. Today these people fear no consequences
Is shame and legacy not related? Carnegie's Gospel of Wealth suggests they are.
And on emperors, we thankfully don't have that in most of the world anymore. I think the question is, 'what keeps the aristocracy in check' which you're right is partially pitchforks, but there used to be decorum and decency, even if it was pretend for a long time in things like politics and the media.
There's a reason the stockades are cruel and unusual punishment -- We are pressed maybe the most by our peers.
I smoked cigarettes for a long time and wanted to quit but never really could even try. When I moved somewhere where people my age thought it was gross and no one would go smoke with me, it was so incredibly easy -- for example.
If the upper class looked down on each other even a little bit for gutting the poor or the environment or mocking the republic, things would be different I think.