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There are many cultures around the world that are suppressed by majoritarianism. They have to face challenges like forced assimilation, language discrimination and refusal to acknowledgement of their unique identity. In fact, many cultures have been identified by UNESCO, that will soon cease to exist - either that they're vulnerable, or completely extinct. How do you, as a minority, feel, knowing that your entire identity will cease to exist in a few decades? Do you have a sense of camaraderie towards other minorities from other parts of the world, say, the Ainu people, or the Brahui pastoralist?

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[โ€“] ndondo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 7 months ago (3 children)

This one surprises me. I had always thought Quebec had a strong cultural identity. How do you see it happening?

[โ€“] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 27 points 7 months ago

Honestly a lot of Quebecois have a persecution complex from centuries of actual mistreatment. But the current situation is fine and their culture is definitely not dying. I live near the Ontario Quebec border and it very clearly feels like a meeting point of two distinct cultures. And neither of them is being dominated by the other. They exist alongside eachother

[โ€“] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 13 points 7 months ago

French is huge idk where they are coming from.

[โ€“] Trollivier@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

We do have a strong cultural identity. But even I, who is aware of the problem and think we should defend our culture, have stopped consuming it since the arrival of Netflix and streaming services.

Internet has a part in that as well. When I was a kid, you would start learning English in grade 4, meaning 10 years old, in school. My son could count to 10 in English at 2 years old. Because youtube. Because of all the diversity of content we have access to now, that we didn't have access to back in the days.

It's probably the same thing in most non English countries.

Is slow, it's pernicious, and probably inevitable over time. We can probably slow it down... I'm not sure.

[โ€“] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think you maybe don't see that there is push and pull between cultures. For example, I'm an Anglo, but I went to French immersion in school, studied french at work for the feds and got certified, and now I enjoy consuming Quebecois media from time to time. Like just recently I started watching 19-2 on Netflix and it's a really fucking good show.

Keep in mind, when a culture puts up walls between itself and its neighbors, that will stop the flow of ideas in both directions. Better to just accept that both cultures will intermix, and it isn't going to destroy either one.

[โ€“] Trollivier@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago

Man, 19-2 is an amazing show. Personally I never felt hated like the original commenter said. And I'm glad some of our content attracts people who don't live here. But, I'm merely stating how easy and accessible it is to learn English, which is a good thing, by the way.

However, like I said, about 90% is the culture I consume is American now. Like in most countries. I'm definitely not encouraging the local culture, and I'm aware of that, but I'm simply not interested in it now. I got rid of cable TV because the ads were making my IQ drop every time. It's probably my fault this is happening in the first place. But now and more families are going steaming only.

All in all, the change in the way people consume culture is playing a lot against local culture.

[โ€“] z00s@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If you think that a child counting to 10 in a second language is a cultural threat, you have a persecution complex.

[โ€“] Cinner@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I think you have a reading complex. They were comparing how they didn't learn any English until they were in 4th grade, but their baby could count to 10 in English by age 2.

Which they then went on to flesh out the entire rest of their comment, that they don't even consume French media anymore.

[โ€“] z00s@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Whose fault is that? Their own. I could count to 10 in Spanish before I went to primary school and I don't live in the US.

Persecution complex for sure.

[โ€“] Cinner@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry you have a persecution complex, but I'm not sure Lemmy is the place to work on it.

[โ€“] z00s@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Cinner@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Read deeper into the comments in this thread, you may get it eventually buddy. Keep at it!

[โ€“] z00s@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Aw little buddy, you keep trying! Good luck getting through puberty!