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[–] joewilliams007@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 7 months ago (3 children)
[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 62 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Sigh.

Sure.

Now how do you: CAD, exchange, Publisher, Access, Excel (no, open versions of excel still don't come close, they can't even do tables), Onenote/SharePoint, etc, etc.

And Linux is as messed up in its own way. Power management is off by default, so it kills your laptop battery (at least on every version I've tested). Notifications that you can't silence without looking up a command line.

No, the learning curve is still too steep to recommend to people who I will have to support.

And while the Open/Libre office apps are "compatible", people don't have time to waste dealing with the ways they whack a document. Libre couldn't even properly display the spreadsheet I use to setup a new machine, with 3 sheets and a few hundred lines, because tables.

"Switch to Linux" is a simplistic answer that doesn't address the needs of users. And I use Linux every day, as a serverOS, running VM's and docker.

[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

“Switch to Linux” is a simplistic answer that doesn’t address the needs of users. And I use Linux every day, as a serverOS, running VM’s and docker.

"Let me debate you about why you shouldn't use Windows" as if I want to use Windows, people who have no experience with the software in my industry dropping alternatives. Even had someone debate me after saying I'm a sysadmin in a mixed environment, and how I alone should just move the whole company and all our software vendors to Linux.

[–] SeedyOne@lemm.ee 12 points 7 months ago

They hated him for he spoke the truth...

[–] laverabe@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Just as a minor correction - Librecalc can do tables. Why they didn't call it tables and bind it to CTRL&T is beyond me though. link

select the cells -> Data -> AutoFilter

I create them with CTRL&T through the custom shortcuts in options. They work about the same as Excel.

Librecalc is a little rough, but I'm actually starting to find it superior in functionality and customization compared to MS. And it's about 10x faster on very large spreadsheets for me.

I would also definitely recommend using use dark mode if you're going to use calc. Options -> Application Colors -> LibreOffice Dark

[–] joewilliams007@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

uh hu, you locked yourself in. Imo if you dont need Excel, OneNote or any of that shit, its perfectly cool. For devs its even nicer not to have to deal with all the windows shit ways of doing things. As for documents, LaTeX is great.

Also, in the end, the command line is even easier than having to learn shitty user interfaces. And you get much faster with command line too. Windows likes to have 3 different design languages from different decades for no reason.

Using it as OS and as Server, it has been perfect for years.

People who don't use it either have a life and simply dont want things to change, or are too foolish to realise they are getting trolled with every update.

For people starting, just dual boot a Linux Distro. For the shit that requires windows boot into it. The rest can all be done in linux. Even boots faster.

And for average people probably the google documents / slides [...] will be more than enough.

Rip to people that need windows shit to be in their life for work. Though they could also use a windows vm.

[–] raldone01@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I could not find any selfhostable solution that comes close to the features of one note. Handwriting, offline work and syncing are a must for me.

Also one note web sucks.

[–] JayDee@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Using syncthing and obsidian with the excalidraw addon does this. Don't know if that'll meet your standards, but it'll do handwriting, offline work, and syncing.

While obsidian is not open source, it is extensible with a large community, so it can do a very wide variety of workflows. It's what I used before moving to Logseq.

[–] randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 7 months ago (3 children)

What's slowing down Linux adoption?

Is it the monopoly Microsoft has on all PC hardware and strong relationships it has with desktop software partners that make leaving windows near impossible?

No, it must be the users.

/s insert principal Skinner meme

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 11 points 7 months ago

Commercial support for it.

On a personal level, I installed Ubuntu for the first time in over a decade and found the experience worse. Previously I could download everything I needed either through the package manager or deb file easily. Ow I ran into a new flat pack type installer that has failing dependencies that weren’t found through command line either. The new mouse driver in gnome was hot garbage too with the touchpad sensitivity so high I couldn’t scroll more than a page and a half at even the lightest touch. No settings to change it either. Windows is far easier at this point.

[–] hagelslager@feddit.nl 2 points 7 months ago

Nothing near the level of Adobe software for example.

[–] alphacyberranger@lemmy.world -3 points 7 months ago (3 children)
[–] Zeke@kbin.social 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I game on Linux all the time. I've been playing apex legends, phasmophobia (VR), palworld, the finals, and so much more. It all works on Linux. There's not a lot of games that I can't play. Most of the time my sister, who's on Windows, has more trouble getting her games running.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Gaming on Linux is ridiculously easy. And for some, easier than on Windows.

It's only really in VR where I notice Windows being better. On average, my games run better on Linux than on Windows, which is crazy considering they were made for Windows.

There are some games that use kernel-level anti-cheat (essentially a rootkit for your PC), these don't work in Linux, and Linux devs have made clear they won't accept inclusions of rootkits in the kernel.

[–] alphacyberranger@lemmy.world -3 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Sorry but will games like GTA V, Forza Horizon 5, Doom eternal, Horizon Zero Dawn,Cocoon and all run on linux ?

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I've not heard of Cocoon, but the rest of them I own and yes.

Open steam, press play, game is running.

E: apparently Cocoon is steam deck verified, so works flawlessly.

[–] kronarbob@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Yes. Check yourself :). https://www.protondb.com/

Not all will run out of the box. Some require tweaks, some won't run as good as on windows. But many games will run day one nowadays .

[–] jrgd@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I am not sure if jest, but you could always take a few seconds at protondb to see that yes, all of those games do in fact run on Linux. Forza in particular seems to have issues for some users, but everything else works with minimal hassle.

[–] ItsMeSpez@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

From: protondb.com

GTA V - Gold; seems to be playable for most people, with a few performance hiccups depending on your system.

Forza Horizon 5 - Silver; requires significant tinkering, but playable.

Doom Eternal - Gold; works well for most, but has some reported performance issues on some systems.

Horizon Zero Dawn - Gold

Cocoon - Platinum

Single player experiences like these aren't typically where you find problems with linux gaming, however. Games with accompanying anti-cheat software, like competitive shooters, fighters, etc. are typically problematic. Competitive titles are the only reason I have a windows partition at this point.

Gaming on linux is more viable than ever, and becoming more and more stable all the time - mostly thanks to Valve. That being said, your experience will be dependent largely on your hardware. There are known issues with Nvidia cards on linux, because Nvidia refuses to cooperate with the FOSS community, but even those issues seem to be easing up (although to be fair I don't follow this topic closely, as I have an AMD system). Anyone telling you there are no issues is lying to you, but so is anyone who tries to tell you that linux gaming is still borked. Do your research if you're interested in switching, and determine if the games you play are well supported or not. In the end if there is one game holding you back from switching and you want to switch, it's always an option to keep a windows partition around as a backup for games that don't play nice with linux.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

I forgot what 2008 was like. Thanks for the reminder

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

These types of comments are annoying and super unhelpful.

Nice job /s