Are you transphobic as well? I'm genuinely curious. Or does transgender count as "real" in your view because it does have a far more strict definition?

[–] MetaCubed@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I thought they were gender abolitionist, but I... I'm not too sure anymore.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I am too tbh, I think the weird thing is enbies to me are inherently a sort of political commentary through identity on gender and our relationship to it, unless I'm just wrong.

I think the whole issue is somewhat separate from trans people who mostly are just people with a mental neurodivergence/disorder called gender dysphoria that causes them anguish and is caused by their body's sex and their brain's innate sense of sex don't agree and therefore they seek medical treatments like HRT and surgeries and documentation changes to help them perceive themselves and be perceived by others as members of the target sex as much as is humanly possible.

Their political angle is to fight for access to said healthcare to be more common, available through insurance, be taken more seriously with faster wait times and be available to younger people since the effectiveness of a lot of the treatments like hormones depends on the age you start.

Conflating the two imo is kinda like commentary on attention spans relating to social media and the actual neurological disorder ADHD.

[–] MetaCubed@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think it's a little "exotic" to call my existence an inherent political commentary. It's certainly something that can be used to inform political debate, but I believe saying that it's inherent misses the point that our existence is only political because it's politicized

And for what it's worth, gender dysphoria is also something experienced by nonbinary folks, but it isn't a requirement of being trans or non-binary either. Some people just don't experience it and requiring it as a clinical diagnosis is part of the medicalization of our and trans people's existence as well.

I don't really know how to finish this lol, I agree with the rest of your comment. I just wanted to correct what I feel are common misconceptions.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

Maybe dysphoria isn't a precondition to being trans, but I don't get how.

What I don't understand is then why transition? If you're fine as you are, why the hassle? Just as fashion/identity? Body modding for lulz? Nothing wrong with either but it's very removed from my XP.

I only transitioned because I needed to, to me GD is a curse treated with medication and surgeries I couldn't live without and that's basically all that being trans is to me. The identity of being trans is defined to me by dysphoria - mental torture associated with one's birth sex fixed by becoming the other, or as close as possible with current tech.

Also how does enby dysphoria work? Do you just feel dysphoric about a mix of male and female traits? That's wild if true.