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The measure to make vehicles weighing 1.6 tons and over pay 3x the parking rates for the first two hours has passed in Paris.

Now, let's get that in place for London and many other other places to help slow, and even reverse, this trend towards massive personal vehicles.

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[–] wopazoo@hexbear.net 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

It's incredible that you can't wrap your head around the fact that creating a tax that only rich people can afford makes SUVs a privilege for the rich.

SUVs for Poor People 2024 - Why should only rich people drive SUVs?

No one should drive SUVs. Making SUVs something only rich people can afford reduces the total amount of SUVs on the road. I'm sure that you would prefer Singapore over Dallas, right?

It's doubly funny that you yourself already admitted that it's only rich people who own SUVs anyways meaning that there's likely to be little tangible effect from this.

You'd be surprised at the irrationality of rich people who spend big bucks on an expensive car but balk at tripled parking prices.

Here's an anecdote: I personally know a Lexus driver who refuses to drive downtown because the parking is too expensive.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Again, my point is that laws should apply equally and not be based on whether somebody can afford to ignore them. Banning SUVs would be a good and fair measure, making it so that rich pricks can prance around in them is just rewarding privilege.

[–] wopazoo@hexbear.net 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

making it so that rich pricks can prance around in them is just rewarding privilege.

Please show me some of the poor people who are driving around downtown Paris in SUVs (hint: there is no one)

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Please work on your reading comprehension and then reply to the point actually being made.

[–] wopazoo@hexbear.net 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Opposing the war on cars because you weep for the mythical working-poor Parisian SUV driver

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

not what I said, but it's pretty clear that's the straw man you want to argue against

[–] wopazoo@hexbear.net 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm going to name every single logical fallacy you've ever made, and it's going to be fucking over for you.

You've truly run out of points when all you can say is "hurr durr strawman strawman" huh?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] wopazoo@hexbear.net 1 points 6 months ago

maddened when someone improves society somewhat