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[–] h14h@midwest.social 55 points 1 year ago (29 children)

This kind of gatekeeping and elitism is bad for Lemmy and for FOSS.

It makes this community a less welcoming place and leaves new folks with a bad first impression. Much better to be welcoming and let people learn/see the benefits of FOSS at their own pace.

[–] dzonc@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'd given up on lemmy because every so I had tried was unfinished and unpolished. I tried sync and finally felt like the user experience wasn't getting in the way of content.

I'd love to support foss, if a genuinely comparable experience existed.

I'm glad to say that sync has revived my interest in lemmy.

[–] penfore@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's been one year of this conversation, but I just found it now.

Sync has also made me use Lemmy more often, but I was still missing a good web environment until recently when I started using photon. It is the best web experience I had using Lemmy and now I'm using as a progressive web app.

Photon repository here! Give it a star or start contributing to it.

[–] machinaeZER0@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You should check out Thunder, even if you gave it a try at some point - it's super polished and it's gotten even better week after week. In my opinion it has the best compact mode of all the lemmy clients, as long as you don't mind swipe actions!

[–] thimantha@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was using Thunder last week until Sync's open beta got approved and the User Experience and the interface of Thunder is nowhere near Sync. It's a night and day difference, and a difference that would have made me use Lemmy less and less.

[–] machinaeZER0@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thunder is like a month old - it's still growing and will continue to improve with the community's help :) if you think anything could be improved, definitely shout it out on the GitHub page!

[–] thimantha@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I understand that it's new, and it is definitely the best FOSS Lemmy app out of the dozens that I used. But it has a very long way to go to achieve the same level of User Experience that Sync has. It's not even close and I don't think anything bar a major UI/UX rehaul could fix that.

[–] WidowsFavoriteSon@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago

Dozens?? Do tell.

[–] xenspidey@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

Not OP, but I've tried thunder. It's OK. Sync is light years above all other clients I've tried. (same with reddit as well) swipe actions? Sync is the king of swipe actions.

[–] Zalack@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

IMO FOSS has really great offerings when it comes to libraries or other highly technical code.

But something about either the community or incentive structure results in sub-par UI/UX. Obviously not a rule, but definitely a trend I've noticed.

[–] Meloku@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

Don't forget the community's reaction to comments like yours, why down vote him if he's stating the obvious? FOSS projects often focus so much on technical features because everyone wants to flex their code-fu, but nobody gives enough time to UI/UX. Just look at pretty much every Lemmy web frontend, fugly webpages with early 2000s look-and-feel, usually slow and/or buggy, and with little to no user feedback.

[–] AProfessional@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy is just new. The best desktops that exist are FOSS.

[–] Zalack@startrek.website -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's very subjective. I have yet to find a Linux desktop I like as much as MacOS, especially when it comes to WACOM drivers. The stylus response time/curve almost always feels wrong.

Also, I've worked with designers who can get something that looks and feels fully professional on a first pass, so it's not just newness for Lemmy.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

FOSS doesn't need your support. You misunderstand the relationship. FOSS is looking out for you.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

I see the upvotes but I cannot support this comment. FOSS could use a lot more support at every level, including users.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 1 points 7 months ago

Username checks out. Wait I know this face from masto - I think I follow you!

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