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[–] HRDS_654@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The main issue is that they communism is economic policy, NOT social policy. While they do go hand in hand people often conflate the two. Many dictatorships use communism as a way to control the people but that doesn't mean that communism leads directly to dictatorships.

[–] Spinnyl@lemmy.today 2 points 4 months ago

Communism is an economic fairy tale, not policy.
It would be nice if it were possible but with the current state of the world, it is not.

Social democracy is a reasonable compromise.

[–] HeurtisticAlgorithm9@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If they're using "communism" to control the people, then they're not really using communism

[–] Sharkwellington@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is true Communism even possible if it's being attempted by flawed humans? Seems like it doesn't matter the economic system so much as the fact that people will ruin anything given enough time.

[–] tara@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

It’s about incentives. Worker oppression in Monarchy requires a bad King, in Feudalism bad lords, in Capitalism bad shareholders, and in Socialism self-hating workers. If you shared your workplace, would you push to remove your rights? Or to screw over your customers? And then argue for that against everyone else you share power with? The incentives are plainly better in a worker owned economy.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

"That wasn't real communism" eh? First time I've ever seen this one..

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess the main issue is with the government having absolute control over the economy. I would not want the most prominent politicians in my country having control of the economy. No matter how much I dislike capitalism.
Just put the people who work for a company in charge of the company. Have them elect who calls the shots. Also have them directly benefit from the company doing well. I guess that is like end-stage unions or smth. All power to the workers. Should be doable within capitalism, maybe, probably.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"All power to the workers" is a communist principle, though. It's the main political slogan of the communist manifest by Marx and Engels.

[–] Yendor@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can’t have a communist economic policy without being authoritarian. It’s human nature - once money is removed as a motivator, society breaks down unless you motivate people some other way (not being sent to the gulag).

[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

The only thing that motivates you in life is money? How do you feel about that?