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I've used a US-QWERTY keyboard layout my entire life. I've seen other layouts that do things like reduce the size of the enter/backspace keys, move the pipe operator (|) and can't wrap my head around how I would code on those.

What are your experiences? Are there any layouts that you prefer for coding over US English? Are there any symbols that you have a hard time reaching ($ for example)?

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[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

What are your experiences? Are there any layouts that you prefer for coding over US English? Are there any symbols that you have a hard time reaching ($ for example)?

I'm using a PT-PT ISO layout keyboard, zero issues reaching anything, works as good as your US keyboard for coding. Actually it might work better because I have a bigger "enter" key.

can’t wrap my head around how I would code on those.

Typical American trying to comprehend that people from other countries exist? :P

Think about it this way, all the EU keyboards are essentially the same as yours but tweaked to accommodate languages that have more special chars than English.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I live in Brazil but I also use US- Dvorak as OP. Is a pita everytime I need to write the ç, or õã cause I have to change the keyboard just to write a letter.

[–] Nyonnyan@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You may want to take a look at dvorak-intl and or dvorak-alt-intl, which adds the alt-gr layer to type language specific characters

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 9 months ago

I think I tried it once, but the R and L had their position changed, and not all machines have the intl version so I just went back to the US one.

[–] Olissipo@programming.dev 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Fellow PT-PT ISO user here. And although I use PT-PT in the OS, both my mechanical keyboards' physical layout is DE ISO, which has most special symbols in the same place. (finding DE keyboards is easier)

I've considered switching to UK ISO before. Typing brackets "[] {}" and a semicolon ";" is harder in PT-PT. Especially the curly brackets {}, which are really awkward to type with my small hands.