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[–] dandroid@dandroid.app 86 points 7 months ago (13 children)

Uh, I assumed that was a minimum viable product requirement.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago (12 children)

I've been avoiding eSIMs like a Boomer avoids anything tech because I don't understand them, and now I'm glad I did.

SIM cards work fine; other than waste reduction, what's the point of eSIM?

[–] twix@infosec.pub 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Well, on the other hand, do you just understand how simple cards work? I for sure don’t and I don’t see why I would need a chip from my provider to access it’s services, if I can get a digital key instead.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I like that I can switch phones with a physical card. IPhone to android still no way.

[–] Clent@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

My understanding of this is that the hardware vendor has a pool eSims that work on their devices. The eSIM "transfer" is actually a new eSIM from the carrier's pool and their simply transfer the emei over to the new eSIM so there shouldn't be a reason these cannot be transferred between iPhone and Android other than service providers needing to support it.

[–] SheeEttin@programming.dev 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Your provider won't issue a new eSIM?

[–] BlueFire@lemdro.id 1 points 7 months ago

They can and probably already do charge extra for that service.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

How do you get that to your new phone?

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

As I understand it (I've done literally zero research), it's to prevent spam/spoofing, at least in the US. With a physical card, you can't just instantly convert your phone to a different number and carrier. Now, with all the robocalls I get, there's obviously still more work to be done...

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Spoofing what? Imei numbers? Phone number spoofing is not solved by this. With VOIP you can literally tell it to send whatever number you want to be its caller I'd.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 7 months ago

Not that simple type of spoofing. The kind where I could set up a phone with your number on your network that the network thinks is yours and then intercept your incoming calls and text messages. Including being able to get your security texts to verify who you are when I would change your passwords, emails, banking info, stock accounts, etc.

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