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[โ€“] Denjin@lemmings.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You've kind of hit the nail on the head, art is by definition anything the observer and/or the creator calls art and it creates some sort of emotional response in the observer.

By all means do a shit, film it and book somewhere to show it to an audience and you have indeed created art.

I agree that without any context, most of these clips look like ridiculous bullshit, but without understanding what the intention of the creator is and what the audience are getting from something you might as well just post clips of Star Wars without context and say "look how stupid this is LOL"

[โ€“] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You've kind of hit the nail on the head, art is by definition anything the observer and/or the creator calls art and it creates some sort of emotional response in the observer.

Yeah it does, it makes me wanna look surprised and walk away. Does that make it art? No, at least not in my mind.

By all means do a shit, film it and book somewhere to show it to an audience and you have indeed created art.

See, this is why I stopped listening to alternative music. Cuz everyone just copy/pasted everyone else in the end, not to mention artists and bands, as old as time, just doing what they're doing for the income, drugs and nothing else. They really don't care about the music any more, some have even admitted that in public. So, am I supposed to listen to 100 albums on the off chance that I get to hear that one artists or band that actually made something new, interesting, not shitty, and different? No, thank you, I'm way past that point.

I agree that without any context, most of these clips look like ridiculous bullshit, but without understanding what the intention of the creator is and what the audience are getting from something you might as well just post clips of Star Wars without context and say "look how stupid this is LOL"

You know, I once went to this play called Solaris (there were movies made after the play as well, one English one Russian). Anyway, I was really excited because I really liked the movies (mainly the US version, the Russian one was somewhat boring, but watchable) and I was so pumped, I bought a ticket 3 weeks ahead.

So I go in and sit, the play starts and... it's 5 hours long, 2 pauses in between... OK, I was expecting that, as long as it's interesting, it doesn't matter, right? And the play starts and it's just... an hour and a half of slow motion movements, no dialogue, nothing... OK, I will be patient ๐Ÿ˜ค. Oh, finally, some doaloge ๐Ÿฅณ. 5 minutes, even that was in almost slow motion. Another hour passes with shit like in the clip, just people doing things that make no sense at all. That's it. I got up, walked away from the theater. Those 3 hours have to be one of the most pointlessly spent ones in my entire life.

My point is, I knew the context of the movies, I knew what they were about and I saw none of that in the play. What does that say about the director of the play? Mind you, I wasn't the only one leaving, the theater was mostly full, after an hour and a half there were like 30 people left, I was amongst the last ones to leave. How stupid can you be to think that 5 hours of that shit will keep people interested and trying to "decode" "what was the artists trying to say with this or that". It can be interesting if it was a dose of it, like 15 minutes, but 5 hours of that shut, fuck no.

BTW, I bet you whatever ammount you like, I post a short Star Wars clip and screen it to people that have never seen Star Wars... 90% of people will understand what that scene was trying to say. It's Star Wars, not Fight Club.