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submitted 11 months ago by trashhalo@beehaw.org to c/technology@beehaw.org

Apple has deployed a system called Private Access Tokens that allows web servers to verify if a device is legitimate before granting access. This works by having the browser request a signed token from Apple proving the device is approved. While this currently has limited impact due to Safari's market share, there are concerns that attestation systems restrict competition, user control, and innovation by only approving certain devices and software. Attestation could lead to approved providers tightening rules over time, blocking modified operating systems and browsers. While proponents argue for holdbacks to limit blocking, business pressures may make that infeasible and Google's existing attestation does not do holdbacks. Fundamentally, attestation is seen as anti-competitive by potentially blocking competition between browsers and operating systems on the web.

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[-] masterspace@lemmy.ca 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Every time I've ever looked into it or read anything on the topic it's been like "do not do this. I lost my father, my children, two wives, and all my Pokemon cards in this endeavour, but in case you don't want to listen, here's how I partially successfully hosted my own email server for three months..."

[-] amju_wolf@pawb.social 4 points 11 months ago

It's not that bad but definitely not a solution for everyone. And you probably still don't want to do it for your primary mail unless you're otherwise extremely well versed in doing so, up to and including running multiple servers for redundancy.

[-] optimal@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago

Most of that is about Exchange. Because Microsoft software is always garbage.

[-] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 11 months ago

Not exactly. Having a running software is one thing, not having your emails be blocked by everyone because you're not a trusted host is another. That another is a deal breaker and a huge pain in the ass, even though it helps fighting spam

[-] optimal@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 months ago

These days you can spin up a docker container with all the email trust stuff preconfigured

[-] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 11 months ago

And the emails from your custom server will be rejected and/or marked as spam by every major corporation, and you will spend countless days writing appeals and appeal rejects

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