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A US appeals court Saturday paved the way for a California law banning the concealed carry of firearms in “sensitive places” to go into effect January 1, despite a federal judge’s ruling that it is “repugnant to the Second Amendment.”

The law – Senate Bill 2 – had been blocked last week by an injunction from District Judge Cormac Carney, but a three-judge panel filed an order Saturday temporarily blocking that injunction, clearing the path for the law to take effect.

The court issued an administrative stay, meaning the appeals judges did not consider the merits of the case, but delayed the judge’s order to give the court more time to consider the arguments of both sides. “In granting an administrative stay, we do not intend to constrain the merits panel’s consideration of the merits of these appeals in any way,” the judges wrote.

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[–] DaBPunkt@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (6 children)

I never understood why the Americans have to carry a weapon at all. I can understand (to some degree) to want to own a weapon (to defend your home from other people with guns, going hunting, shooting cans, etc. pp), but to carry it outside while doing normal things like shopping, dinning, watching a movie?

[–] seedd@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

For robbers, rapists, kidnappers etc. They show up while doing "normal things" ..so.

[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago

Some carry while camping, on road trips, etc. Situations where you're likely to be alone and emergency services would take a long time to respond.

There's also plenty of paranoid or insecure people.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Americans believe they live in a post-apocalypse where a shootout could start at any moment.

Self-fulfilling prophecy.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Congratulations! You are privileged enough to believe that everyone lives in a modern day utopia in which nothing bad can ever happen to them so why would anyone else feel the need to protect themselves.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/21/europe/prague-university-shooting-intl/index.html

https://apnews.com/article/london-new-years-eve-boy-stabbed-6400e7e3b1fa0e7d7d2ab3669c48278c

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/four-children-mom-found-dead-christmas-day-france-rcna131184

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Because you can't rely on cops to protect you and can't expect regular people to forego violence if they believe it will get them what they want.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Statistically, guns don't stop crimes, they just make them worse. The "good guy with a gun vs bad guy with a gun" is nothing but a fantasy.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/251894/number-of-justifiable-homicides-in-the-us/

In 2022, there were literally only 463 justifiable homicides in the US. And that's with all weapons, not just firearms.

Gun carriers are not stopping crimes, they're just playing power fantasies.

[–] PopcornTin@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Note that only covers homicides, the criminal died. Guns can save people from going that far as well. Everything from yelling, "Don't come here, I have a gun," to showing it, to firing and wounding or missing the criminal isn't in that statistic. One FBI statistic a few years ago put it around 2-4 million instances of defensive uses of guns that year.

Statistically you'll never be mugged, raped, or murdered, so why do anything to prevent any of them?

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

It's really a very very small minority of Americans who are like that at all.

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

The worst part is that they leave their guns in their cars and then they get stolen and used in murders and robberies. The people who conceal carry are usually not the people you want doing it anyway.