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Fear Mongering About Range Anxiety Has To Stop — CT Governor Calls Out EV Opponents::Several state governors are fighting fear mongering as they attempt to reduce transportation emissions in their states.

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[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Why aren't plug in hybrids getting pushed harder?

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You get the benefit of the vast gasoline network but you also get the maintenance of both ICE and electric systems.

[–] poopkins@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Plus carrying around the weight of both the batteries and the ICE with its tank of fuel.

[–] girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And yet they are still generally more efficient than ICE vehicles.

[–] poopkins@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Of course! EVs are more efficient again, however, in part because they can replace the space and weight of the engine and fuel tank with batteries.

[–] Stormstout@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

On paper they are the best of both worlds. In practice it is the worst of both worlds. Yes range is no issue but you need to go to gasstations and still need to charge your car most places you go if you want to reap the benefits. I honestly prefer non plugin hybrids to plugin hybrids in this regard. But i much rather bite the bullet and drive electric, even if i have to stop and charge on roadtrips. The increase in comfort of electric driving is worth the downside of longer traveltime to me.

And that is from a drivers comfort point of view. Maintenance is the same story. Having all the downsides of a combustion engine in a car that could have been an electric car.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Because then car companies have to maintain two systems and the complexity increases. I'm very happy with my plug-in hybrid. I'm running 100% electric in my day-to-day driving and on longer trips the amount of gas used varies. If I'm careful then I can go a year without a trip to the gas station. I wish more companies went this route, but they want to keep their profit margins up. I'm just waiting for the flood of cheap EVs that will eventually come in when more and more companies enter the market. Chinese EV companies are looking to enter other markets and this should drive prices down, but legislators are proposing tariffs to keep prices up.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Does the unused gas not cause problems after that long, or is the moving vehicle enough to keep it happy?

[–] hark@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I drive a chevy volt which includes measures that protect against that, including burning off gas if it's been too long. In fact, I could've gone more than a year without a trip to the gas station, but the limit for gas to sit in the tank is about a year.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

That's cool, didn't know they did that. Thanks!

[–] player2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Right, they seem like the gateway car to ride people over until a full EV and the charging networks are more competitive. I would love an EV but they just aren't convenient enough for my work travel schedule. A plug-in hybrid would solve that concern and allow for my non-work driving around town to be electric.

[–] snowe@programming.dev 5 points 7 months ago

I’m very interested in why an ev wouldn’t work for your work travel schedule.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

If you have a place to charge at home, I wonder if you have dated information. I agree this was true 5-10 years ago, but EV is a pretty clear winner now

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 3 points 7 months ago

The Japanese are still pushing them. Probably fine for some people but they do add a lot of cost and complexity to the drivetrain. EV reliability stems from simplicity. No pistons, no timing chains or valves, no torque converters, etc. etc.