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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Sorry to hear you only consume US state approved propaganda.

[–] yo_carny_bob_eye@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why on earth would you assume I consume US media, let alone what kind of US media I allegedly consume? Unlike you I actually was born and grew up in a dictatorship with actual state approved media. Your stupid comment is an insult to the victims of dictatorships everywhere.

[–] FireMyth@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

It's yog- he's 100% a propagandist across multiple platforms. Whatever he posts you can safely assume is pure propaganda and only tangentially related to reality.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I grew up in USSR, and a lot of numbskulls called it a dictatorship.

[–] Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How were those free and fair elections in the USSR?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

A lot better than in western shithole countries.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (14 children)
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[–] andyquest@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Always shocked to see how debilitating of a mental illness tankie brain is

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[–] yata@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And here is the whataboutism. Instead of replying to the question you attempt to deflect by pointing fingers. Again, typical of your bad faith behaviour.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago

Very on the nose for you to use a logical fallacy as a form of argument. Comparing democracy in USSR to the available alternatives is precisely how you determine the quality of the democracy.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

After USSR collapsed life got very hard, and my family ended up moving around a lot to make ends meet. I don't think people in the west understand the kinds of horrors we had to live through after the collapse. I can tell you a personal anecdote where we started to have food shortages, and people would line up in front of a grocery store early in the morning like a black friday sale. Then people working at the store would just wheel out a cart with whatever they had and people would rush to grab what they could. Since I was a small kid at a time, I could weave between people easier to get to the food. I was literally risking my life getting trampled just so I wouldn't starve for the day.

Anybody who cheers the collapse of USSR and claims it was a good thing is a piece of human garbage.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see, that's pretty traumatic. It explains your hatred of the post-USSR regime.

Would you move back if a post Putin leader would revert back to the USSR ways?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was pretty happy with my life in USSR, so I definitely would move back if that was to happen. However, I don't really see a path towards that in the foreseeable future. Russia is very much capitalist nowadays, and I don't think there's any real political will to go back to a communist system at the moment. That said, there is no stigma against communism within Russian public. Lots of people who grew up in USSR are still alive today, and they overwhelmingly prefer the old system. They obviously have influence on the younger generation as well, so communism is generally seen in a positive light in Russia. Perhaps now that Russia is falling into Chinese sphere of influence that may result in a similar model at some point.

I think it's also worth acknowledging that USSR did collapse, so clearly it wouldn't make sense to try and recreate the same system. What needs to happen is that people need to look critically at what USSR did well, and what the problems were to build a better system informed by that experience. I hope that happens within my lifetime, but you can never know what the future will hold.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

OK thanks for your personal insights.

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Ahh the old whataboutisms come out.

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[–] APassenger@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't look for you, but you're never far away.

This is another example of you being glib and acting like you know a person and their failings with profoundly little evidence.

If you want to be taken seriously at all, work on being able to draw clear conclusions from a body of evidence and then be able to use rhetoric well.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know you could have replied with the exact same reply to the parent comment, yet you chose to reply to this one. Curious.

[–] APassenger@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't see them being glib on every 10th thread I click through.

That distinction is entirely yours.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago

If people make idiotic comments then they shouldn't expect generous replies. I don't ever make any glib comments when somebody makes a respectful reply that's on topic. Respect is earned.

[–] yata@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Get out of here with that strawman. None of the comments you replied to implied anything of the sort. It is very typical of your bad faith MO though.

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