Escaping Xi’s China by paddleboard: ‘I rushed into the water and thought if they catch me, they catch me’ (www.theguardian.com)

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[-] Vodulas@beehaw.org 5 points 6 months ago

Just because one state is also shitty to dissenters does not mean another state isn't. They don't cancel each other out.

Dissident is pretty vague, probably on purpose. As much as I dislike the US government, I can say the government here is shit and not get hauled to jail for the most part. The same is not necessarily true in China

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

is it?

how is the us treating communists, smaller trade unionists, palestine supporters, blm people and such over there? those people have sharp criticism and are the true dissenters to varying degrees.

ask one of those what could happen to them if they get singled out as a leader or something. i judge by actions not words.

e: immigrants too

[-] Vodulas@beehaw.org 3 points 6 months ago

I think you 100% missed the point. No matter how the US treats people, China can also treat people terribly. They are not mutually exclusive.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You were saying the US is better, all I said is that it isn't.

One of them never sponsored a coup in my and most of my neighbouring countries.

[-] Vodulas@beehaw.org 4 points 6 months ago

I did imply the US is better, and I probably should not have. And even in that I did not mean the government doesn't do horrific things. Probably should not have made the comparison TBH. That doesn't mean China doesn't also do horrific shit, even if the way they do it is different

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