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Some media outlets still use Twitter/X as a source for news and opinion, otherwise I wouldn't go near the site. Seeing some of the replies to a trailer for the upcoming Doctor who xmas special, I wonder why somebody feels the need to actively shit on a show they so clearly dislike:

Like most #DrWho fans, I won’t be watching. #DrWho is dead. The doctor is now black and gay, Sir Isaac Newton is now Indian, and the character of Rose is being played by a man wearing women’s clothing. #RIPDoctorWho #DefundTheBBC #DiversityHire

That quote alone has too many levels of wrong to pick over, but it will never not surprise me how little of the show's humanist messages these people have taken to heart.

Edit: Thanks for the "duh, Twitter" responses. I do think it's low hanging fruit to just blame the platform (which is, inarguably, a dumpster fire). Let's talk about reactionary fans instead, yeah?

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[–] blackstampede@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago (5 children)

I haven't kept up with the series and I'm probably not going to start again right now, but is the doctor canonically gay? Like did he regenerate gay, or is the actor just very obviously gay and they don't address it otherwise?

[–] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

So the new actor, Ncuti, is IRL "gay"- David Tennant is not, he has a wife and children and there's a whole Doctor Who story behind that too. But the Doctor has never been "straight", at least not for NuWho ( but there was some serious flamboyance in the classic series too). Jack and the Doctor kiss in the first season of NuWho and 13 fell in hard like with Yaz, her female companion. Plus there are scattered remarks throught the show that would make one question the Doctors sexuality if it mattered.

The Doctor is essentially omni-sexual. They fall in love with a personality not genitals or species.

[–] blackstampede@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I had always assumed he was omni-ish. That's why I was wondering if they had made some definitive statement.

[–] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

I don't think they need to, but I don't recall anything definitive other than Donna's comment about the queer never being too far from the surface. I think they intend to bring it out a little more with 15 though because every actor gets to put some of themselves in to the Doctor.

[–] Devi@kbin.social 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There was a bit with Tennant where he said he liked men, and said that was new. It's not a major plot point.

[–] SkyeHarith@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He didn’t even say that he liked Men he just said that he thought one guy looked good. like come on. It’s just aesthetic appreciation

[–] Devi@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I didn't say he liked all men, just men.

[–] SkyeHarith@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

We’re on the same page. I was adding onto your point

[–] Pronell@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's a right wing troll.

The doctor is often manic and playful. I know nothing about the actor but nothing about the performance seemed 'gay'.

That aside, Rose is a new character, not the old Billie Piper Rose, making the rest of thus idiot's take completely unhinged.

I hadn't watched and since Matt Smith and personally just wanted to see Tennant and Donna Noble together again.

[–] blackstampede@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Same, actually. I'm glad Tennant is coming back.

[–] Shareni@programming.dev 3 points 8 months ago

Wasn't he in just for the specials?

[–] halm@leminal.space 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

is the doctor canonically gay?

...and if they were?

No, it has not been writ in stone that the Doctor is now "gay". Ncuti Gatwa is queer although not public about what that entails afaik. In a recent special, David Tennant's Doctor did (somewhat to his own surprise) note that another man was "hot", but Donna commented that his queerness "was never that far from the surface, mate".

When it comes down to canon, the Doctor is a millennia old, time travelling alien that changes face every couple of years. If viewers are able to accept that and the other wild concepts of the show, they shouldn't have any trouble coming to terms with down-to-earth, real life things like the Doctor not being totally straight.

[–] blackstampede@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

I mean, I'm curious, that's why. But thanks for answering the question.

[–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

is the actor just very obviously gay

🤞🏼Please see the ridiculousness of this notion, please oh please.