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Okay fine, I'm never clicking on a substack link again.
And after say a grace period of about 6 months to move elsewhere, I'm going to assume anyone associating with the service is at best a nazi sympathiser
Go ahead, be a Nazi bar, I'm sure their money is worth it
This is such a complicated feeling... On one hand, I agree. But on the other, we can't specifically pinpoint what censorship is valid and what isn't.
Edit: Obviously, I'm not considering Nazis in this thought experiment.
Edit 2: OH MY GOD PEOPLE! OF FUCKING COURSE WE SHOULD KEEP NAZIS OUT FFS! 😑
look i mean, wherever the line is, im pretty confident nazis are on the other side of it
Good point.
Yes we can. Kicking Nazis off their platform is valid censorship. Nazis lost the right to have a seat at the table in 1945.
Obviously. I'm not considering Nazis in this thought experiment.
It's indeed very difficult if not impossible to exactly and specifically pinpoint where the line is, it is however extremely easy to see when ideologies and behavior steps across it.
If you're still hand wringing over whether or not Nazis are scum of the Earth that deserve nothing more than pure vitriol and ostracisation, you might be a Nazi.
Obviously, I'm not considering Nazis in this thought experiment.
I've seen this come up a few times. My response has been "luckily our platforms aren't run by an inscrutable god-machine nor an evil genie".
For non government cases like this, we don't need to solve the general case. We can just say "no Nazis allowed", and "no hating on queer folks " and so on as needed. Web forums have had rules for more than 30 years and it hasn't been a crisis.
Yeah. A baseline is needed for sure. Moderation is definitely necessary.
It is only censorship when it is the government, else it is normal people not wanting to deal with Nazis.
If you really want your white supremacists views out there just roll your own setup
Makes sense.
sighs I'm not even gonna try to address it now.
Hey sorry Nazis are bad at figuring out how internet works