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How do you "reform" mental health. Would you reform van Gogh?
Would you reform Joan of ark ?
Pick any genius. It's called savant. Education
LOL wut? ๐คฃ
What part is confusing you ?
The part where you didn't understand what I said, misinterpreted it so badly, assumed something that wasn't implied, and went on a rant equating people with dangerous severe mental illness (as in the kid in the article) to people in the creative arts.
Oh and also the Joan of Arc thing. ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ
Haven't explained it yet. Still waiting
For me it was the Joan of Arc thing.
But I think more generally the implied notion that mentally unstable people shouldn't be helped because of art.
Savants are on the spectrum but are genius. You cannot remove one without the other. The reason they are so brilliant is because part of the brain has been sacrificed to increase another part.
Obviously treatment is still good but you can't change it
Once I read that book describing many cases of extreme mental deviations like those you refer to here : having both extreme mental abilities in one very specific domain while having big social issues. You name a few historic cases of people which could very well be of this kind. People here reading what you write are skeptical (to put it politely) as I was at first reading that book, but those cases do exist,
... and a few of us understand what you say.
Appreciate it but I don't really bother with what the masses think of me. Joan of arc I remember is thought to have had schizophrenia. However she had an uncanny ability to rally people around her. Not sure that could be classed as savant.
The masses are generally unwilling to remove themselves from the status quo. Happy with their lives and just want a simple life.
Why learn about anything.
More than likely most of the most well known artist were so spectacular because they weren't "normal" normal people do normal very well. They font excel and push the boundaries of human existence. Gotta be fucked out to push past that. Drugs can do it to some degree but for real greatness you need to be abnormal
"Drugs can do it to some degree" ... you are typing very fast I guess ... but still I understand and I agree. I am probably myself about 2xSigma outside of the norm and (mostly) happy to be so.
You have clearly strong views which makes conversations more animated and interesting : I am happy to hear that you are fine with this.
Take care, see you around ๐
Typing on phone can autocorrect for some reason. I've no idea about out of the norm, but I'd expect it to be pretty likely. No worries. Happy to converse whenever. I'm a bit head strong but happy to be proven wrong