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To clarify here, I don't feel like I'm significantly smarter than most people, but I feel like people have a hard time doing any sort of thinking about stuff. Especially when it comes to verifying "facts."

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[–] S_204@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The under 25 crowd seems to be a bit.....off. I'm just an old guy now, so I'll be here yelling at my clouds.

[–] diannetea@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I'm not so sure, I saw this short the other day of this Gen z woman with a caption that said something like "you can tell gen z from millennial by the rise of their jeans" with her wearing mid rise (labeled low) and high rise jeans, and the comments were full of millennial women pointing out that in the 90s the low rise was like way way way low (which they were) or that millennial wore low rise first, or that it was a bad style or whatever input they felt they needed to give

And I realized this Gen z girl doesn't care about any of this, and is actually quite clever, she's just effectively gotten an insane amount of engagement and is positioning herself as an influencer because much of my generation are idiots and are commenting and reacting on her stuff over the rise of pants

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

One thing that seems to be true for so long as we have been writing stuff: people 35 and older have always always complained about how hopelessly stupid/lazy/off the people under 25 are and how society is doomed when those folks take over. I take comfort that we seem to have consistently gotten this wrong for hundreds of years.

[–] Clarke311@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.".

Socrates. ~400BC

[–] OhFudgeBars@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

~400BC

And yet the quote is still somehow not even remotely old.

[–] S_204@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Ya, I don't think they're lazy or stupid but I'm clearly seeing enormous swaths of people being herded by social media and it's quite fascinating to see. Prior to this generation, the ability to influence wasn't nearly as easy to do and attention spans weren't quite as easy to capture. Now we're all captured by the device we're holding and influenced by one thing or another.

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A major difference is they can get information whenever they want.

It used to be sort of hard to find academic knowledge outside of an institution. Now you can download it all for free on libgen and have youtubers walk you through it.

That kind of accessibility causes people to take it for granted.

[–] S_204@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The biggest difference is where the information is coming from, moreso than its availability imo. Previously what you read in a journal or textbook was typically pretty well vetted, it's hard to say that about the information I'm getting here.

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can download the exact books they use in college.

[–] S_204@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yet that's not how we're seeing people get their information these days....

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

It used to be sort of hard to find academic knowledge outside of an institution. Now you can download it all for free on libgen and have youtubers walk you through it.

their information

You're conflating "their information" with "academic information."