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Canada to announce all new cars must be zero emissions by 2035::Canada expects to announce this week that all new cars will have to be zero emissions by 2035, a senior government source said, as Ottawa is set to unveil new regulations in the latest example of countries around the world pushing for electrification.

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[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 19 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Then there's tire and road wear, which increase substantially with the heavier weight of EVs.

[–] yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Not if we implement a weight tax on trucks and SUVs

[–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I've commented on this before, though I couldn't find it to plagiarise myself.

Ford puma ICE: 1280KG
Nissan leaf BEV: 1580KG
Ford F150: 2134 KG
Range Rover: 2513KG

Honestly, tax weight and emissions. Emissions tax the energy put in the vehicle, and charge extra for high emissions in dense areas.

[–] sir_reginald@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I also advocate for smaller cars, but batteries are heavy as fuck. The same car just swapping the motor with a battery will be considerably heavier.

[–] yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Battery technology is impoving everyday, newer cars could easily have smaller batteries

[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 9 months ago

And they will. Why have a 600 mile battery? Your bladder won't last that long on the highway. Have a 300-400 mile battery and cut the weight.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 5 points 9 months ago

The spelling is non-sequitur. And it's not that, the idea is that vehicles are already much heavier than they should be by use. For example a Tesla Model 3 is much lighter than the two most popular car models being sold in Canada, despite being an EV.

By the way, the biggest contributors to road and tire wear are heavy freight trucks, so instead of jerking off about EVs vs non-EVs, maybe building a decent railway infrastructure would actually help on that front, while also removing some cars on long road trips from the roads.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago

SUVs are by far the biggest factor that has driven vehicle weight.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Cars getting fatter has been an increasing issue for decades. Some of the people responsible for that are some of the same people now using tire and road wear as a talking point against EVs.

At least with EVs, there's a path to getting it back down. The primary weight is the battery. Instead of having a 600 mile range EV (which is pointless), have a 300-400 mile range and cut the battery weight down accordingly.

[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What EV has a 600 mile range?

[–] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 9 months ago

None, which is the number it should stay at.