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Meta just announced that they are trying to integrate Threads with ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, etc.). We need to defederate them if we want to avoid them pushing their crap into fediverse.

If you're a server admin, please defederate Meta's domain "threads.net"

If you don't run your own server, please ask your server admin to defederate "threads.net".

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And get my server hoggud up by 1.000.000 biased meta shitposts a minute? No thanks.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's not how federation works, which makes me worried that users who get to "vote" on this thing (they don't, it's the instance owners that do) actually do not understand what would happen.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 10 points 1 year ago

It's exactly what would happen, as users on my server would look up instances on meta servers.

[–] eltoukan@jlai.lu 1 points 1 year ago

is there a writeup somewhere that ideally goes into enough detail to clearly understand how instances/federation work and what would really happen ? I hate Meta but I realize I have no clue what threads coming means and implies, decentralized systems are very unintuitive when you're used to conventional social media.

[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I understand correctly, your server will only receive posts from users that someone on your server has subscribed to, so the number is overblown by several orders of magnitude.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Except if there is a mega meta instance...

[–] Nelfan@mastodon.zaclys.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Valmond
According to what I've read, they haven't implemented yet but you'll have to opt in in the settings of a threads account to be seen on the Fediverse. In other words, it won't be possible to interact unintentionnally with the Fediverse. So, Fediversians will be in a state of complaining in case of bad behaviours coming from Threads.
https://kbin.social/u/@mosseri@threads.net
@xigoi @fediverse

[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 1 points 1 year ago

See my other comment.

[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 1 points 1 year ago

Because it would drown out all the Lemmy stuff (sorry late replay, Christmas and stuff).

[–] Nelfan@mastodon.zaclys.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 1 points 1 year ago

Interesting. But lemmy is not built to be a personal instance, more of a group thingy (I understand the complexity of it, and I like it, but there are things that will be hard to deal with computer-science complexity wise if one instance gets too big. That's why I'm not just on board against meta/threads.net, but totally against it). In a nutshell Lemmy will thrive being lots and lots and lots of small servers with sub 100k users (probably 10k is a nice number? Or 35 because you like that rare thing).