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[–] Screwthehole@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The article isn't very, uh, articulate in its reasoning. Nothing here is an actual real life problem it's all just what-ifs, and 2 billion people aren't going to quit using it

[–] zaph@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A teen in Nebraska was sentenced to 3 months in jail because Facebook turned over her "private" messages but sure, no real life problems with trusting meta with your "encrypted" messages.

[–] grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I do not disagree with your basic premise and I completely disagree with the Nebraska prosecution but I think people need to understand that everything we do online it's monitored.

If they can't get the actual message data, they will use meta data (e.g. two parties sending and receiving data packets that match in size and time of occurrence and protocol and are known to each other) or whatever.

If you are doing something you are worried about other people knowing about, do not use any digital form of communication. Full stop. There is no privacy online.

[–] zaph@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're absolutely right, there's no privacy online. But there are significantly better alternatives that offer end to end encryption and sometimes digital communication is required.

[–] grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Yes, I agree, for example credit card transaction processing or business communication with trade secrets in it. For most people doing things they want kept private but which is not illegal, basic encryption is great.

If I were going to plot the overthrow of a government, I'd try to as much as possible offline.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That was Facebook Messenger too, completely different app and problem, not that Whatsapp isnt better or worse.

[–] zaph@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

I used it as an example because they're both owned by meta and make similar promises on privacy and encryption.

[–] jsnc@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago

If you wanted something unforgivable Whatsapp is proprietary software and thus restricts your freedom. Using nonfree software is an abuse in of itself.