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[–] BachenBenno@feddit.de 75 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter whether communism is good or bad, capitalism is still terrible.

[–] Shake747@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That's a fair criticism, we do need to find a better way

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (91 children)

The Nords found it because they keep their capitalism restrained as it should be to serve the interests of the people in their societies instead of the reverse as it has become here.

The problem, of course, is the market crony hyper-capitalists that spawned mostly out of the US are using their power/capital to do what they did here everywhere else in it's insatiable quest for growth/metastasis. The UK has already fallen to the faustian bargain of "YOU can live large, just sell out your fellow citizens." Germany is getting on board, France's people are fighting but losing. Unrestrained capitalism high on its own greed is absolutely cancerous and deadly.

Capitalism CAN when tightly, tightly straight jacketed, be used to incentivize labor as communism cannot, but it must be tempered by the heaviest of taxation for the commons. Being a doctor or a lawyer should yield better rewards than a janitor, but within fucking reason/sanity.

Should a Doctor be able to afford a bigger house and a nicer car than an average worker for their effort? Sure. Should they be able to afford 3 houses to the janitor's studio apartment in a bad neighborhood? No, both provide essential services to society after all.

There needs to be a drain for out of control capital acquisition or that capital will eventually be used to propagate greed and capture the regulatory bodies meant to keep the sociopath that is capitalism sedated and restrained. No individual should possess enough capital to have more power over socetal structures than their single vote allows.

In exchange for not allowing greed to run absolutely rampant as it does here, they go to college based on merit, get healthcare when they need it, don't end up homeless in hard times, don't sweat job security, on and on...

https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/happiness/

At least until the global markets find enough greed driven traitors in those societies to "turn the bull loose" there too. Because once they get a foothold, that's the ball game until collapse. Once that happens, they start using their for profit media machines to propagandize division within the citizenry, ensuring no meaningful counter movement, they use their power over government to indoctrinate children through education to call greed "rational self-interest," deify profiteers as "job creators," to feel hatred rather than empathy towards those that are struggling(herp derp those evil powerless homeless people are lowering my property values! If they can't/won't work, why won't they just die?), etc. That's why the US will need to collapse under the weight of its own corruption before things can even begin to improve. We're too far captured.

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[–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (11 children)

99.9% of the problems caused by capitalism happen because we allow the bribery of government officials and legislators.

Make that a death penalty felony and then we can start fixing problems. Elect me President and I will use an iron fist to do this.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can be some kind of dictator, but for the proletariat!

[–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago
[–] crazyCat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I can’t tell if this is ironic sarcasm, it is right.

[–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

I got bad news for you but Republican shock therapy seems to be outpacing Democrat incrementalism by about a hundred to one.

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