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[–] satan@r.nf 9 points 9 months ago (5 children)

This shit again? have people never heard of lending? the thing you get to use for a short duration at a fraction of the cost to buy it outright or create it yourself? The thing you don't actually own and have to give it back? renting?

is this some kind of alternate universe where people think they own every movie or game simply by paying $$. is this kindergarten mathematics? and this is coming from people who can't code for shit and don't realize the scale of things bts.

Get a physical copy that doesn't require internet activation then, assholes.

but but but… that requires actual physical movement and getting out of my basement. 😭

[–] 0xtero@kbin.social 52 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Get a physical copy that doesn’t require internet activation then, assholes.

I think the point was, it is increasingly hard to find such products.
And even once you think you've bought such product, DRM makes sure it's still not really yours.

[–] Safeguard@beehaw.org 37 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They where using words like "purchasing", and asking just as much for the digital files as for the DVD's. If they where even available.

So it makes sense people where seeing it as "owning". And then looking puzzled when Sony decided to break into their own devices and delete files..

I have family that FINALLY see that DRM is a thing in their lives, and they DO NOT like it.

[–] 0xtero@kbin.social 26 points 9 months ago

Yeah, and as the article links, this is just not about media, CDs, DVDs and games. It's also about very physical products that we immediately associate as "owned" - like printers, phones, cars, tractors or even, (lol) trains. They're all locked to manufacturers parts and repair services and increasingly difficult to circumvent.

[–] peter@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It being increasingly difficult to do that doesn't change the meaning of the word stealing, it just changes whether or not you think it's morally acceptable to do

[–] 0xtero@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Serving my car with 3rd party parts is stealing?

[–] peter@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago

Where did I say that now

[–] theKalash@feddit.ch 32 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Get a physical copy that doesn’t require internet activation then, assholes.

Just a little bit closer, you're almost getting the point!

[–] TheRtRevKaiser@beehaw.org 24 points 9 months ago

Hi @satan@r.nf, please remember Beehaw's primary founding principal when commenting here: Be(e) Nice.

It is possible to disagree with someone without using abusive language. If you think they are wrong, attack their arguments (civilly), not the person.

[–] Jamie@jamie.moe 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Or I can pay nothing and get a plain video file that I can do anything I want with, and play on any device without needing a player. And as long as I keep that file backed up somewhere, I'll always have a copy of it.

The TV business is struggling to learn the lesson the music industry learned a long time ago.

[–] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 4 points 9 months ago

And you provide what return, besides snark

[–] Tau@sopuli.xyz 11 points 9 months ago

Get a physical copy that doesn't require internet activation then

I cannot speak about movies. But physical games now are also just "usage licenses", they are encrypted and if the console is connected to the internet at any momento, your rights to play the game may be revoked (just like digital games or, in this case, digital TV series)