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Just use 'sudo'. Oh wait... Oh. I'm sorry.
@cyborganism is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
E: I'm so unoriginal. Happy holidays everyone.
I sing the alt text of this comic to myself at least four times a year.
login root
There's sudo for windows but its actually just administrator
Yes, you can install it with winget to make your job in the terminal easier.
Windows has sudo now, lmao
laughs in games (that others actually play)
...too soon? :p
Too late, games work fine now.
Not really, unfortunately; the last time I checked, over half the games I regularly play had major issues, such as no multi-player, graphical corruption, etc.
I'd hop off windows but it's still not viable yet.
OK. You do you. Enjoy laughing in your games that others play.
Imagine getting salty about a light-hearted comment
The comment definitely didn't feel light-hearted.
The initial comment ended in a :p and my argument are valid as I've tried dozens of times to switch myself but alight sweetie, be mad~
Important clarification: It's still not viable for you yet.
I've been using nothing else for the past 18 years.
"works on my system, non-issue" helps no one
Complaining about how shit Linux is generally doesn't help either.
Probably because it's a(n excellent) Kernel (in my opinion), not feces.
Eating shit and calling it chocolate doesn't make me want to eat your shit.
I don't give a flying fuck which OS you use.
So the games do not work fine, because it isn't viable for all players.
Granted, I'm not a big AAA gamer. But out of 60 games in my collection, I couldn't get 2 of them to run (Rocksmith and GTA Vice City), and for 2 others (Gothic I,II) I had to tweak some settings.
Which isn't a worse ratio than what I was used to from Windows.
You're acting like Windows doesn't also have problems.
They both do.
So I'll pick an OS that doesn't treat me like a combative customer and instead does exactly and only what I want it to do.
I wish more people commented like this.
FOSS is life, freedom, progress, the future.
Any examples maybe?
As I recall off the top of my head, gta5 (buggy), the division 2 (anticheat), the entirety of Forza Horizon 3+4 and Halo Wars 2 (since they are MS Store titles)... I want to say watch dogs legion (uplay) but tbh it's been a bit and my memory is fuzzy. Also since proton is for steam, I assume EA/Origin, which wipes a dozen games with one swoop, too (modern NFS, The Sims, Burnout, Battlefield...).
I've got a bunch of older games too that I keep installed for nostalgia, but haven't looked at their playability scores; stuff like (all listed are non-digital copies) NFS 2 through Most Wanted (2012), GTA 3 / VC / SA, Midtown Madness 1+2, System Protocol One, TDU 1+2 (with third-party multi-player support thru TDU World launcher)...
I think the rest of my currently installed games should work ootb (no mp/steam managed or GOG / physical copy/new enough that I don't think they'd need patches or workarounds...). But with over 7k gameplay hours logged on the Forza Horizon series alone, there's a lot I play daily and losing just a couple would be too much. I'm out of the 'tinker until it works' phase, I just want things to work, ya know?
Edit: I'm also not sure how deeply ingrained the MS account stuff is, but also Horizon 5 (steam) and Halo MCC + Infinite (steam) too
Looks like the people are downvoting you are just being assholes.
I also touched EA or Origin since for almost 20 years, and the only racing games I like are things like Wipeout. So it looks like the games you enjoy aren't titles that either of us play. I was hoping to see a game or two in your list that I either myself or my husband knew a workaround for, and could attest that it works.
I know that some people have had luck opening Origin games through Steam in order to use Proton, my husband has done that for some Assassin's Creed games. Here is someone showing the steps for Need for Speed The Run:
https://www.toptensoftware.com/blog/running-ea-origin-games-under-linux-via-steam-and-proton/
I also completely understand just wanting to come home and play the games you want to play without any tinkering. Use whatever OS lets you do what you want to do on your system. There's a reason I run Mint now instead of something more cutting edge.
I just woke up thinking about this; I have looked very briefly at Bottles (containerizatiom for games and programs), and I actually think it claims to do EA/Origin if I remember the screenshots correctly, but that was about a month ago and I totally forgot to look deeper. Still doesn't check off everything but it's still progress if so.
I'm currently latched into windows 10 until eol and I've been trying to switch to *nix for two decades now, but something has always been too much of a hurdle (dog war flashbacks meme of the wifi driver hell of the mid-to-late 00s) and I end up giving up, restoring from a backup and waiting a couple of years to do it all again. It used to be fun, genuinely, but yeah at this point I want someone else to do it these days and tell me what's broken, I just want to enjoy my time these days. Troubleshooting and trying potentially solutions for a few days just to get nowhere isn't the joy of learning that it once was.
Not sure about that one, but protondb stated, that it "gold". Also, reports saying that even online works just fine.
Works almost a year already, cause game using "easyanticheat", and proton supports it now, but devs need to change lib in their game manually, so not every game works, sadly.
Forza works just fine, cause you can install it from steam, I played 4 part myself not long ago. Not sure about Halo Wars tho, never played it. But "Halo Wars: Definitive Edition" is on steam and have platinum support level on protondb.
First of all, proton is "just" an settings and patches on top of regular wine, that was around for ages. Yes, you can use it outside of steam (altho, that is not recommended by several reasons, and instead it's recommended to use smth like wine-ge), so yes, by using various tools like Lutris, Bottles, etc. it is possible to install any existing launcher. More then that, community so sick cause of that launchers, that it created it's own for GOG and Epic, called heroic launcher. As myself, I playing on regular basis a few games from there: Battlefield 1\5, StarWars: Battlefront 2, Control and few others. Of course even something older like Mass Effect will work just fine. That being said, I use braindamaged strat by installing any needed game by steam and proton itself, via "add other game to steam library" button. Yes, pirated games or even Origin launcher can be installed this way, but lutris usually easier.
Tl:dr All old games mostly works fine or better on linux, cause of wine being smth like windows own "legacy support" thing. Hard part is installing and patching or running thru mod launchers. It's usually in territory of "advanced users", but tools like bottles can help. Only exception, if mods using just dll or replacing some textures, then installing will be exact as on windows. There also an official beta mod manager for nexus mods, for example, so modding smth like skyrim is now much easier, then before.
Re: FH4, ms store and steam versions are incompatable, and I'm not replaying 3.5k hours to get back to where I'm at (eat shit and die, devs, it'd be easy as fuck to do but you're little shitstains and lifting a finger that you don't absolutely have to is far too much effort, we know). I know this because I got the steam version on release to find out that all my progress is magically gone. Thank fuck steam has refunds now.
Halo Wars 1 is on steam, but 2 is not :( (and it's the far superior game, imo).
I'm basically looking for a system that scans my existing games, gives a "yes it all works" or "no and here's why", that I can use to actually migrate. Other comments deep in the tree go over this but tl;dr I'm so tired of being excited and hopeful and drop a week+ into it just for a showstopping problem and I revert to the windows system backups. I'm tired of being the guinea pig, ya know?
Well, you can connect your steam account to protondb and tap on "explore" button. That will not cover any software\games, but at least something. Altho, I would say: why you even want to switch at this point? Like, if you can withstand windows bullshitery but not linux bullshitery - stay on windows mate, no one will judge you. That why I staying on linux for example, even tho my work as junior system administrator mostly requires me to work with windows. I just can't go to home, boot my pc and acknowledge the fact, that windows "updated" driver of my 7900xtx and I can't play damn minecraft for 10 minutes before bed, cause I need to spend at least 20-30 minutes to fix that shit. I just can't. Yes, my arch linux may broke on occasion cause of update or smth like that, but at least I have full control about that. And if something happens, it's usually cause you decided to do something, not cause Microsoft decided silently "fix" their security issue in "Print Spooler" and broke all shared printers in the facility I working in.
I have been progressively disliking Windows since 7 - I feel it peaked with Vista, tbh, I was incredibly excited for that OS and even was a beta tester and provided feedback. I hated 8 (never owned, but I worked on customer's machines that had it and 8.1). I dove into 10 the day it went gold and it's been a 'oh fuck, what is this shit' ever since. 11 I tried for a month before reverting to 10 (yay disk imaging!) and I don't know what I'll do when 10 goes eol in like 18 months (for this desktop anyway, see below).
I've used Win from 95 all the way through 11, and I started trying and in some cases using Linux distros starting back in... 03? Knoppix was my first, then Ubuntu and it's various flavors, straight Debian, Arch and it's many spinoffs, Fedora... I want it to work. It's the project car in the field with "potential". It could be great. But every time you try and work on it, you find something weird, some oddity, some gotcha, and give up and let it sit. Until next time. Rinse and repeat.
I installed W10 Enterprise LTSC a month or so ago on my ThinkPad (non-gaming), as it is supposed to get security updates for much longer, as I understand it. I tried to put Fedora on the ThinkPad, but the Snapdragon X55 modem doesn't work, and that is the reason I got this machine, so that's DoA. There are fixes but they are for older versions of distros and literally none of them work (again, install *nix, try to make it work, get frustrated, revert). It's like, unless you're in this very boring typical user status, as soon as you step beyond that, it's nothing but frustrating. And I hate that - again, I want this to work, but it just doesn't. I have years of similar stories, and I'm just like... I'm trapped in this cycle of wanting to enjoy a system that fights me every step, for one reason or another. So after almost two decades of it, I'm like 'it just doesn't work until I see proof otherwise, and I'm going to be stuck until that changes'.
Super frustrating :(
Honestly, by working in IT you may found out, that every soft suck in some way or another. Windows - constantly broke itself by updates\not working as intended in the first place + frustrating UI\UX decisions; Linux too complicated and don't user friendly enough beyond "install firefox > use firefox > turn off pc", also breaks down at time; Mac OS too closed source, to the point when to install some regular soft like wine you need to "unlock" your OS and reboot PC after some tinkering, also hackintosh almost death at this point, also poor apple decisions about feature set support, like recent drop of 32 bit applications or not supporting Vulkan, or dropping support of openGL and etc., also weird course about gaming support, it's like they change their mind every damn month about it, so almost no game publishing company wanna work with them.
Everything sucks man, seriously. At this point it's just "pick your poison".
What are these games? I've noticed more of a performance increase (if anything) lol (Mostly Satisfactory, Rimworld and Minecraft)
I listed off a bunch in another comment in this tree
Fair enough, I've never even heard of some of those games, also I have most on steam or as a native executable
Laughs in proton supremacy and skipping rootkit garbage :p
I've actually started playing all my games in Linux recently thanks to Steam and Proton and it's been amazing so far with very little trouble. I can't believe how easy and how well it plays.
Fires up my Steamdeck
You're at least half a decade late, son.
Can confirm, have been gaming exclusively in Linux for at least half a decade.
Steam says only 10 000 out of 70 000 games on their store are compatible with Linux.
And yet most work despite not being officially certified. Use ProtonDB if you want more accurate empirical data on what works and what doesn’t.
i'll take a lack of a gaming addiction over ms spyware anyday
cries in being home-bound by a disability and needing to pass time until my early death
install linux, it will certainly pass time
I'm old hat with many distros, and the 'yay tinkering' is gone, replaced with 'just fucking work'. I want to enjoy my time :p
The amount of time I spend fixing the things windows messed up after an update and opting back out of what I can is way too high for me (because I use it so rarely it is usually a far greater percentage than I spend tinkering on Linux)