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[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 7 points 10 months ago (19 children)

I'll be that guy: I miss the old Linus. If I fucked up that badly I'd want to know I had fucked up that badly.

[–] yiliu@informis.land 7 points 10 months ago (9 children)

Yeah, it's kind of invigorating to see somebody speak so plainly. No "There's a couple issues we should maybe discuss", no "Let's loop back on that sometime", no "Hmm, is that really the best approach? Do you have any documentation?" Just a straightforward "Dude, this is shit! Here's some reasons why!""

Having worked for a decade in tech, I would love it of people were this direct.

[–] rainynight65@feddit.de 52 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Having worked in tech for two and a half decades, and in places that were this direct - no thanks. There's a fine line between being clear and direct, and being toxic - what Torvalds did here was toxic, and in many workplaces of today would be classed as bullying. Being subjected to this 'directness' for any given amount of time will do a number on most people's personality and self-esteem. People don't improve themselves if all you do is shit on them.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 months ago

Agreed. I think it's amusing to observe. Being around it yourself is quite difficult. Being the target of it sucks and having your peer go off the deep end and finding a way to reel them in sucks too.

[–] yiliu@informis.land 1 points 9 months ago

Fair. I've worked in tech for just over a decade now, and I've only been in the polar opposite environment, and found it sorta suffocating. Everybody knows this guy is pumping out crap, and every bug in the system comes from his part of the code, but well...if anybody says it, or even hints it, they're being unnecessarily confrontational, and nobody ever gives anything but positive feedback in peer reviews.

I feel, from my limited experience, like the 90s might have been peak machismo rock star hacker work culture, and the pendulum has now swung to the very far side.

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