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[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Why are you not moving to a different distribution model where you'll get what you're worth? I'll go where the music is. If you keep putting it on Spotify then I'll play it on Spotify.

[–] Masimatutu@mander.xyz 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There are plenty of better ways to obtain music, such as actually buying the music instead of streaming it. And, hey, that's like saying you'd stay on Reddit because that's where the content is. Ethics should come before easy entertainment.

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So, where do I buy the music? I'm not seeing an alternative being offered here.

[–] Masimatutu@mander.xyz 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Same as with most artists, go to their website and you'll find the bandcamp/faircamp/etc page, in this case:

[–] acastcandream@beehaw.org 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Just so I'm clear here - are you doubting the existence of websites where you can buy and download music? I have a feeling that is not what you mean but I also can't really figure out another way to interpret this.

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I checked a couple of songs on my playlist and didn't find places that were obviously better than Spotify. Is Bandcamp better? How about Beatport? Being able to buy and download music is not a guarantee that the artist is getting paid fairly.

As a side note I'm growing weary of having to keep track as a consumer of the revenue streams and ethics of every brand out there. There's a lot on my plate already. I wish that if musicians didn't want me to buy things for a certain price or at a certain place, that they just wouldn't offer it to me in that way. Or, if they were being coerced into it, that they would push for regulation to prevent that. But I have a suspicion that the principle of supply and demand dictates that selling music online just won't be as profitable as they (naively) expect it to be. Too many musicians, too few ears.

[–] acastcandream@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

There’s a lot on my plate already. I wish that if musicians didn’t want me to buy things for a certain price or at a certain place, that they just wouldn’t offer it to me in that way.

This is the Amazon / Valve / [Insert dominant company] problem. It's not musicians' fault. A ton of small companies hate Amazon but if they don't have a presence on Amazon, 90% easily are missing out on too much marketshare to survive. Same with Valve - if you are PC game and you choose not to publish on Steam, you are cutting yourself off from a massive revenue stream as Valve controls ~75% - which is absolutely staggering - of the market.

So this goes for Spotify now as well. If you aren't on spotify, your ability to gain an audience plummets. You hobble yourself like crazy.

Yes Bandcamp and Beatport are viable. CD's which you can rip are also readily available still. Ditching Spotify means ditching some convenience, that's the cost ultimately (outside of the dollars and cents). You either care enough to do it or you don't. It's your call and no judgment here. But those are the answers ultimately.

I recently swapped to Proton Mail/Drive/Calendar from Gmail et al. I pay some extra money annually and sacrificed a few QoL things because decoupling from google was more important to me. I don't expect everyone to follow suit and again no judgment, but I had to accept I wasn't going to get those google QoL elements to the same degree when I made the swap. That's just how it is.

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What's your method of determining that Beatport and Bandcamp are good options?

[–] acastcandream@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I’m not sure I understand the question. Go on the sites and look for yourself I guess?

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The sites won't say "we rip off our artists and they're very unhappy about it". In fact as far as I can tell from visiting spotify.com, Spotify is just fine. So this is apparently not a sufficient method for finding out if a site is a good way of buying music.

[–] Prunebutt@feddit.de 3 points 10 months ago

Spotify has the market pretty much cornered, though.